Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-10 Thread tony mancill
On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 09:23:35PM -0800, tony mancill wrote: > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 07:40:59PM +0100, Markus Koschany wrote: > > > > > I wouldn't worry to much about JGoodies now. We are already at the end > > of the Stretch release cycle but there is still one month left to clean > > everyt

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-08 Thread tony mancill
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 07:40:59PM +0100, Markus Koschany wrote: > I wouldn't worry to much about JGoodies now. We are already at the end > of the Stretch release cycle but there is still one month left to clean > everything up. Best and most time saving option IMO would be to ask the > release

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > This one was really tricky, nobody could have anticipated it with our > current tools. We would need a kind of static analyzer that scans all > classes in the Debian packages and reports if any type, method of field > can't be resolved. Bonu

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:31 PM, tony mancill wrote: > And I didn't anticipate the run-time breakage. Long-term, I > think it is worth discussing how best to support Java applications in > main, since it often feels like we're swimming against the stream trying > to support system-level JARs for

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread Markus Koschany
On 06.12.2016 16:31, tony mancill wrote: > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 11:22:46AM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> On Mon, 5 Dec 2016, Felix Natter wrote: >> >>> 2. Could someone please help analyse the underlying problem >> >> I was also bitten by this problem: >> >> https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pi

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread Markus Koschany
On 06.12.2016 18:59, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > >> issues. if a package often breaks the compatibility and isn't security >> sensitive, then maintaining more than one version is probably more >> efficient (jgoodies and guava fall into this category). > >

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > issues. if a package often breaks the compatibility and isn't security > sensitive, then maintaining more than one version is probably more > efficient (jgoodies and guava fall into this category). What is “security sensitive”? I’d not dare to put numbe

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016, tony mancill wrote: > and reaching out to package maintainers when there was compile-time > breakage. And I didn't anticipate the run-time breakage. Long-term, I I’d assume runtime breakage would also show at compile time, but apparently it’s worse than I thought when you ch

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 6/12/2016 à 16:31, tony mancill a écrit : > ... I'm frustrated by this because > I thought we had addressed the compile-time rdeps by building everything > and reaching out to package maintainers when there was compile-time > breakage. And I didn't anticipate the run-time breakage. This one w

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread tony mancill
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 11:22:46AM +0100, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Mon, 5 Dec 2016, Felix Natter wrote: > > > 2. Could someone please help analyse the underlying problem > > I was also bitten by this problem: > > https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-java-commits/2016-December/062915.

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 5 Dec 2016, Felix Natter wrote: > 2. Could someone please help analyse the underlying problem I was also bitten by this problem: https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-java-commits/2016-December/062915.html On the other hand, Squirrel-SQL is not uploaded to Debian yet, so that’s

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-06 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 6/12/2016 à 08:08, Felix Natter a écrit : > I think the problem was simply that freeplane needed to be recompiled > with the new jgoodies-forms [1]. > First we made freeplane-1.5.16-2 compatible with the new > jgoodies-forms-1.9.0, then > we uploaded the new jgoodies-forms, which apparently did

Re: Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-05 Thread Felix Natter
hello debian-java,   (here are the pastebins which do not expire: http://paste.debian.net/900764/ http://paste.debian.net/900765/)   I think the problem was simply that freeplane needed to be recompiled with the new jgoodies-forms [1]. First we made freeplane-1.5.16-2 compatible with the new

Freeplane and latest jgoodies-forms: strange runtime error

2016-12-05 Thread Felix Natter
hello Debian-Java, I have two concerns: 1. Could someone please upload freeplane-1.5.16-3 which fixes an RC bug (#846816): https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-java/freeplane.git 2. Could someone please help analyse the underlying problem (freeplane-1.5.16-3 might only fix a symptom)? Here is