Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-18 Thread Dalibor Topic
Marcus Better better.se> writes: > > Andrew Haley wrote: > > > It's a good idea to remove generated javadoc and jar files and classes. > > > > Very much so. Unless you build from source, you have no way to know > > that the binaries correspond to that source code. You can't even > > guarante

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-13 Thread Marcus Better
Matthias Klose wrote: > looked at libcommons-logging-java, jaxen, dom4j, which do not use > maven for the build. so which sources are actually including maven > jars? I think we are talking about two different things here. No packages include maven jars. Some packages use maven upstream, but in al

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Marcus Better writes: > Matthias Klose wrote: > > Marcus Better writes: > >> instance we ship a lot of packages that build with Maven, but since we > >> don't have Maven in Debian, we use the included, pre-generated, Ant build > >> file instead. What should we do about those? > > > > if these pack

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-13 Thread Marcus Better
Matthias Klose wrote: > Marcus Better writes: >> instance we ship a lot of packages that build with Maven, but since we >> don't have Maven in Debian, we use the included, pre-generated, Ant build >> file instead. What should we do about those? > > if these packages are in main, file a RC report a

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Marcus Better writes: > Andrew Haley wrote: > > > It's a good idea to remove generated javadoc and jar files and classes. > > > > Very much so. Unless you build from source, you have no way to know > > that the binaries correspond to that source code. You can't even > > guarantee that you're no

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-13 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, Marcus Better wrote: Andrew Haley wrote: > It's a good idea to remove generated javadoc and jar files and classes. Very much so. Unless you build from source, you have no way to know that the binaries correspond to that source code. You can't even guarantee that you're n

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-13 Thread Marcus Better
Andrew Haley wrote: > > It's a good idea to remove generated javadoc and jar files and classes. > > Very much so. Unless you build from source, you have no way to know > that the binaries correspond to that source code. You can't even > guarantee that you're not violating the GPL, which require

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-12 Thread tony mancill
Marcus Better wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: >> It's a good idea to remove generated javadoc and jar files and classes. > > Well, let's agree to disagree. :) > >> They can be removed to use less space and be sure not to include code >> that has been build with non free dependencies. > > The spac

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 12/12/06, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > It's a good idea to remove generated javadoc and jar files and classes. Well, let's agree to disagree. :) ;-) > They can be removed to use less space and be sure not to include code > that has been build with non f

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-12 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, > > They can be removed to use less space and be sure not to include code > > that has been build with non free dependencies. > > The space argument is rather weak IMHO, and certainly shouldn't warrant > rebuilding a source tarball only for that purpose. (Or do you have a source > for th

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-12 Thread Andrew Haley
Arnaud Vandyck writes: > On 12/6/06, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > > Generally speaking yes, but the Debian Java Policy suggests, that class > > > files should be removed from upstream release [1]. > > > > That advice is plain wrong. (And it's not par

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 12/6/06, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Benjamin Mesing wrote: > Generally speaking yes, but the Debian Java Policy suggests, that class > files should be removed from upstream release [1]. That advice is plain wrong. (And it's not part of the actual Java policy as the page says.)

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-12 Thread Marcus Better
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > It's a good idea to remove generated javadoc and jar files and classes. Well, let's agree to disagree. :) > They can be removed to use less space and be sure not to include code > that has been build with non free dependencies. The space argument is rather weak IMHO, and

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-06 Thread Marcus Better
Benjamin Mesing wrote: > Generally speaking yes, but the Debian Java Policy suggests, that class > files should be removed from upstream release [1]. That advice is plain wrong. (And it's not part of the actual Java policy as the page says.) Many Java packages come with jar files for dependencies

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-06 Thread Benjamin Mesing
[Please CC I am not subscribed] Hello, > It's preferable to leave the package contents exactly as upstream, and just > repackage into a tarball. In that case you don't need to tag the orig > filename. Generally speaking yes, but the Debian Java Policy suggests, that class files should be removed

Re: Repackaging question

2006-12-06 Thread Marcus Better
It's preferable to leave the package contents exactly as upstream, and just repackage into a tarball. In that case you don't need to tag the orig filename. See http://people.debian.org/~daniel/documents/packaging.html for some recommendations. Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Repackaging question

2006-12-05 Thread Benjamin Mesing
[Please CC, I am not subscribed] Hello, I have an upstream release umlet.zip with the given content: umlet.zip +- com.umlet.plugin +- +- umlet.jar + <.class file hierarchy> + src + <.java file hierarchy> (i.e. u