Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-11-02 Thread Adam Heath
Sorry for the delayed reply, but we all know how life and time come and go. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Package naming: --- * Java programs should be named as any ordinary debian packages. * Libraries must (?) have the name lib[version]-java (where the

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-11-02 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Drop the '-' on the link target. Standard libraries do not have anything like that. Don't drop the dash, think about: libmp311.jar That's confusing to users and programs. Shared libraries do have .so., but anyway there's no need to copy shlibs religously.

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-11-02 Thread Ben Burton
* Libraries must (?) have the name lib[version]-java (where the version part is the necessary part of the version, like libxalan2-java, not libxalan2.0.0-java). There could be a libxalan2.3-java. It depends the software. In addition, this means having libxalan1-java,

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-11-02 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Ben Burton wrote: Have you looked through the JVM registry proposals that I've posted to this list? I put up scripts on people.debian.org almost a month ago (with a post to this list) and nobody has signalled any problems. I remember the thread, but skipped it at the

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-11-01 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 04:14:40PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Egon Willighagen wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running the real jvm. --^^ This was

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-10-30 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Egon Willighagen wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running the real jvm. I'm not really in favor of a system wide classpath; i prefer the current system where /usr/bin/program

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-10-30 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Egon Willighagen wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running the real jvm. I'm not really in favor of a system wide classpath; i prefer the current system where /usr/bin/program

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-23 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 16:58, Ola Lundqvist wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:33:59PM +0200, Egon Willighagen wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running the real jvm. I'm not really in favor

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-20 Thread Jeff Turner
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:04:46AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote: There have been quite lot of discussion about the classpaths... :) The only good classpath is a dea.. clean one. Just curious what does dea stand for? :)

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-19 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote: There have been quite lot of discussion about the classpaths... :) The only good classpath is a dea.. clean one. Just curious what does dea stand for? :) There are a couple of things that I have found that people think is

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-19 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running the real jvm. I'm not really in favor of a system wide classpath; i prefer the current system where /usr/bin/program deals with this... But if the majority prefers it

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-19 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote: There have been quite lot of discussion about the classpaths... :) The only good classpath is a dea.. clean one. Just curious what does dea stand for? :) There are a couple of things that I have found that people think is

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-19 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running the real jvm. I'm not really in favor of a system wide classpath; i prefer the current system where /usr/bin/program deals with this... But if the majority prefers it

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-19 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:33:59PM +0200, Egon Willighagen wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running the real jvm. I'm not really in favor of a system wide classpath; i prefer the current system where

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-18 Thread Ben Burton
I'd have thought program-specific jars are by definition, not shared, and therefore do not belong on /usr/share? False. In java there's precious little difference between programs and binaries; they're often both jar files where the program simply has a class hiding somewhere with a main()

Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-18 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi I'll try to summarize what have come up so far during the discussion. Naming conventions: === Package naming: --- * Java programs should be named as any ordinary debian packages. * Libraries must (?) have the name lib[version]-java (where the version part

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-18 Thread Jeff Turner
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:44:00PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: Hi I'll try to summarize what have come up so far during the discussion. [snip good stuff] To discuss: --- * Should we allow library packages to provide different versions? Like libxalan2 that provides both xalan1

Re: Summary of the idéas.

2001-09-18 Thread Ben Burton
I'd have thought program-specific jars are by definition, not shared, and therefore do not belong on /usr/share? False. In java there's precious little difference between programs and binaries; they're often both jar files where the program simply has a class hiding somewhere with a main()