Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Ben Burton
> If it doens't compile using just -dev then it is a > app that needs to be fixed, and they can help the debian movement by sorting > this out :) Indeed, they *can* help. I don't believe it's debian's place to force them to. Ben. :)

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:44:02PM -0800, Michael Peddemors wrote: > On Wednesday 26 February 2003 16:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > I have to agree with Ben on this one. There are more negative aspects of > > breaking out these headers than positive. I also think that when a user > > (note u

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Michael Peddemors
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 16:03, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > I have to agree with Ben on this one. There are more negative aspects of > breaking out these headers than positive. I also think that when a user > (note user, not developer) wants to build a Qt based app they would assume > that in

Re: KDE Multimedia - Latest updates.

2003-02-26 Thread Michael Peddemors
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 15:55, Paul Cupis wrote: > Somebody has just recently asked this exact question. Please check the > lists before you post. > *Sheepish Grin* Must have deleted that thinking it had somethign to do with the other kdemultimedia issue .. but reviewing the list, you are r

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread John Gay
>> >> It's as simple as reading README.Debian if something doesn't compile. > >hahahahahahha...that's a funny statement. I believe that if we were to >pole folks out there the README.Debian would be the last place anyone >would look to find out why something didn't compile. They would first >ass

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:01:51PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:16:44AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote: > > The consequences I see are as follows. Say a user doesn't have > > libqt3-compat-headers installed (since there's no obvious reason to have > > it installed; none of t

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:16:44AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote: > The consequences I see are as follows. Say a user doesn't have > libqt3-compat-headers installed (since there's no obvious reason to have > it installed; none of the usual -dev packages depend on it). They > download a random Qt/KDE a

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 01:11:20AM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? Exactly. Remember that bit in the social contract about these "users"? -- - mdz

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Ben Burton
> Ben, I always appreciate your work but I think from the developers > perspective > you just need to have a way to get the legacy headers out of the way. We have that already. -DQT_NO_COMPAT. > So if we revert this and put the legacy headers back, even change > them, which I consider to be

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Simon Richter
Ralf, > Ben, I always appreciate your work but I think from the developers > perspective > you just need to have a way to get the legacy headers out of the way. And the > README.Debian explains *in detail* that if an app doesn't compile, install > the compat-headers package. E: Unable to lock

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> Ben, I always appreciate your work but I think from the developers > perspective > you just need to have a way to get the legacy headers out of the way. And the > README.Debian explains *in detail* that if an app doesn't compile, install > the compat-headers package. That's that, and that was

Re: KDE Multimedia - Latest updates.

2003-02-26 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody has just recently asked this exact question. Please check the lists before you post. That said, try: dpkg --purge --force-depends kio-audiocd apt-get install kdemultimedia Regards, Paul Cupis - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SI

Re: mouse bad configuration

2003-02-26 Thread Martin Nigoul
Thanks Paul! It worked great selecting the PS/2 mouse. Thanks again, Martín Nigoul At 10:18 a.m. 26/02/03 +, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 26 Feb 2003 07:15, Martin wrote: > Hi: I try to install debian woody in an AMD duron 750 with a genius > ne

KDE Multimedia - Latest updates.

2003-02-26 Thread Michael Peddemors
Just did an 'update' and 58 packages needed upgrading.. But a few faliures... kdemultimedia-kio-plugins had a problem, to do with kcm_audiocd.la in two packages, mpeglib had a problem conflicting with files from 'yaf' apt-get wanted to hold back kdemultimedia so I expected a problem, and can't i

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 23:15, Ben Burton wrote: > > Almost all of KDE CVS should be working without the compat-headers ... > > I'm not referring to KDE CVS specifically; I believe perfectly that > package maintainers are capable of sorting out t

Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1

2003-02-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 20:45, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > A Dimecres 26 Febrer 2003 20:10, Ralf Nolden va escriure: > > > I do the same the last week , and I have found differences betweend > > > the directories /dist/stable/main/binary-

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Ben Burton
> Almost all of KDE CVS should be working without the compat-headers ... I'm not referring to KDE CVS specifically; I believe perfectly that package maintainers are capable of sorting out this situation in time. The thing is that most users *aren't* package maintainers, and most people who build

kpilot

2003-02-26 Thread Matt Filizzi
Does anyone know if there is an eta for kpilot to show up in SID? I've read about the holdup with the network pieces (aka kmail), so I guess what I'm realy asking is kpilot and the other pieces of the PIM (korganizer, kab, etc..) being held up somewhere? (preferably somewhere I could download a

Re: Problems with kdemultimedia-kio-plugins

2003-02-26 Thread Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
A Dimecres 26 Febrer 2003 20:51, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda va escriure: > > apt-get remove --purge kio-audiocd > > apt-get -f install I forget to say that I did it before. -- Linux User 152692 Catalonia

Re: Problems with kdemultimedia-kio-plugins

2003-02-26 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 26 Feb 2003 19:51, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > A Dimecres 26 Febrer 2003 20:13, Ralf Nolden va escriure: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 07:23, Jens Wolfgarten wrote: > > >

Re: (automatically) making deb's from cvs head

2003-02-26 Thread J. Woch
Ralf Nolden wrote at Wednesday 26 February 2003 21:39: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 09:13, J. Woch wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> I want to (automatically) generate debian packages from kde cvs, >> but since I'm new to packaging I don't even know,

kweather dosent update data

2003-02-26 Thread Mirko Weber
hi, i have a short problem with my kweather-applet. since the update to kde3.1 (i run sid and have installed the packages from official debianserver + kdenetwork from cheney) it doesent updates the information. either manualy or automaticly update does the work. have anyone the same problem or h

Re: KDE 3.1-woody: krec doesn't work

2003-02-26 Thread Peter Wilk
I have exactly the same problem as you have with krec. Must be a bug. Maybe updating Ralph's packages would help. I havn't tryed that yet. Cheers Peter --- Frank Mehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 25 February 2003 14:25, Frank Mehnert > wrote: > > I wonder if _anyone_ has succ

Re: Problems with kdemultimedia-kio-plugins

2003-02-26 Thread Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
A Dimecres 26 Febrer 2003 20:13, Ralf Nolden va escriure: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 07:23, Jens Wolfgarten wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I just wanted to upgrade my box with an normal > > > > linux:/home/jens# apt-get -u upgrade > > Reading Package

Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1

2003-02-26 Thread Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
A Dimecres 26 Febrer 2003 20:10, Ralf Nolden va escriure: > > I do the same the last week , and I have found differences betweend the > > directories /dist/stable/main/binary-i386 and > > /dist/woody/main/binary-i386. > > > > It's normal? > > No, stable is a symlink to woody. You probably pulled o

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Martin Loschwitz
> > > Having -DQT_NO_COMPAT as default compile option for qmake would probably > > not be too difficult to realize. I think adding this value to qmake.conf > > should almost do the job. > No, this has nothing to do with qmake at all as that wouldn't cover automake > projects either. You have to s

Re: Problem processing kdemultimedia-kio-plugins from Ralf's latest update

2003-02-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 05:47, Alexander Antoniades wrote: > Here's the update after retrying to upgrade. I'm assuming this is helpful, > if this isn't please let me know. apt-get remove --purge yaf kio-audiocd apt-get -f install yaf doesn't ex

Re: May patch these pkg into official?

2003-02-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 06:09, Yun-Ta Tsai wrote: > And how about xft2 and fontconfig? > Because they are together, shall I also file them to xft2 and fontconfig > developers? Or you can contact for me? Please contact them directly and send the

Re: Problems with kdemultimedia-kio-plugins

2003-02-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 07:23, Jens Wolfgarten wrote: > Hi! > > I just wanted to upgrade my box with an normal > > linux:/home/jens# apt-get -u upgrade > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > You might want to run `ap

Re: (automatically) making deb's from cvs head

2003-02-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 09:13, J. Woch wrote: > Hi list, > > I want to (automatically) generate debian packages from kde cvs, > but since I'm new to packaging I don't even know, where to start. > Any hints? Yes. Forget about it. Orth has been doi

Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1

2003-02-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 10:24, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > Questions to Ralf: > > I do the same the last week , and I have found differences betweend the > directories /dist/stable/main/binary-i386 and /dist/woody/main/binary-i386. > > It

Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Ralf Nolden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 15:11, Martin Loschwitz wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:16:44AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote: > libqt3-dev/libqt3-mt-dev should not depend on libqt-3-compat-headers since > that would, as you can probably imagine, completel

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Re: Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Martin Loschwitz
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:16:44AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote: > > To be able to build a package that uses these deprecated headers, you must > install the separate package libqt3-compat-headers, in addition to the normal > libqt3-headers. None of libqt3-dev, libqt3-mt-dev nor kdelibs4-dev depend

Rethinking Qt headers (should the header packages be recombined?)

2003-02-26 Thread Ben Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (If you don't want to read this entire email, feel free to jump straight down to [SUMMARY]). Hi. So we've had a little time with the new Qt header structure (package libqt3-headers containing the primary Qt headers and package libqt3-compat-heade

Re: mouse bad configuration

2003-02-26 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 26 Feb 2003 07:15, Martin wrote: > Hi: I try to install debian woody in an AMD duron 750 with a genius > netmouse pro with a ps/2 plug. > when I was prompted, I choose netmouse/ps2 but when KDE starts up > the mouse cursor seems to l

Re: Upgrade Woody from KDE-2.2.2 to KDE-3.1

2003-02-26 Thread Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
A Dimecres 26 Febrer 2003 02:00, Ralf Nolden va escriure: > > > > On his site, he only suggests this if you've installed any of the interum > > KDE stuff. I've only ever had the Official Debian KDE2.2.2, therefore it > > 'should upgrade cleanly. > > It should, but it may not do it cleanly and you'l

Re: KDE 3.1-woody: krec doesn't work

2003-02-26 Thread Frank Mehnert
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 14:25, Frank Mehnert wrote: > I wonder if _anyone_ has success in using krec with your (Ralfs) debs under > Woody? Everything else other than krec works very well for me. PLEASE!!! Could someone who installed Ralf's debs on Woody please try to start krec? Thanks in ad

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2003-02-26 Thread Rene Horn
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(automatically) making deb's from cvs head

2003-02-26 Thread J. Woch
Hi list, I want to (automatically) generate debian packages from kde cvs, but since I'm new to packaging I don't even know, where to start. Any hints? Thanks, Jens

mouse bad configuration

2003-02-26 Thread Martin
Hi: I try to install debian woody in an AMD duron 750 with a genius netmouse pro with a ps/2 plug. when I was prompted, I choose netmouse/ps2 but when KDE starts up the mouse cursor seems to like the under left corner of the screen -it does move just a little an then goes back- (and do some sor

Problems with kdemultimedia-kio-plugins

2003-02-26 Thread Jens Wolfgarten
Hi! I just wanted to upgrade my box with an normal linux:/home/jens# apt-get -u upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: kdemultimedia: Depends: