Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Tuesday 11 May 2010, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Dotan, > > On Monday 10 May 2010 18.12:46 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde > > folder, can you try in a new user profile and report back? > > I hate it when this shows up. Yes, it's probably easier to debug, but > often bugs

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Monday 10 May 2010 16.08:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it > difficult to use. Nepomuk / Strigi need to improve a *lot*. * Strigi sucks up all disk bandwidth and, given enough time, all memory to the point where the oom kill kills my sess

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Dotan, On Monday 10 May 2010 18.12:46 Dotan Cohen wrote: > I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde > folder, can you try in a new user profile and report back? I hate it when this shows up. Yes, it's probably easier to debug, but often bugs *do* show up that don't happen anymore when I remove my ~/.kde

disconnected IMAP and Task bug

Hi, I am experiencing this bug with kdepim 4:4.4.3-1 from unstable. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232568 Has anyone else had this problem? I have found that altering any task, whether it is checking the completed task check box, or altering the percent completed causes an endless loop of

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Few thing's that I really ned or miss me from KDE 3: Konsole Profiles widget -there is only Shell. In 3 was Root Shell, Python Shell etc. Info/Error Message -in 3 you can select and copy in 4 only in certain cases, and that is more than important if you have some big nasty line. Konqueror -

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

Hello, On antradienis 11 Gegužė 2010 02:17:17 Richard Hartmann wrote: > Now, to be serious once again: > This whole thing is obviously loaded with emotions on both sides. > Having crossed the line of "KDE 4 is good enough for general > use" just recently, I think I can understand both sides. > Esp

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 00:43, Frederik Schwarzer wrote: > It is technically impossible to lie if stating an opinion. If I prefer vanilla and say "I prefer chocolate", I lie. I hope I could light the whole situation up with that :) Now, to be serious once again: This whole thing is obviously

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. - Dienstag 11 Mai 2010 00:25:54] > On Monday 10 May 2010 17:02:35 Richard Hartmann wrote: > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 22:39, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail > > > crashers were fixed! > > > > Speaking of whic

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Mike Bird - Dienstag 11 Mai 2010 00:40:25] > On Mon May 10 2010 15:20:52 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > This list is not for development issues like developing / maintaining KDE > > 3.5 packages for Squeeze. > > > > So IMHO any further request for KDE 3.5 in Squeeze is off topic on this > > list a

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon May 10 2010 15:20:52 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > This list is not for development issues like developing / maintaining KDE > 3.5 packages for Squeeze. > > So IMHO any further request for KDE 3.5 in Squeeze is off topic on this > list as Debian KDE/Qt maintainers repeatedly said they won't.

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon May 10 2010 14:41:26 Modestas Vainius wrote: > Mind you, you are actually trolling on users' mailing list and achieving > exactly nothing. Existing Debian KDE maintainers are clearly not interested > in your efforts as neither is majority of audience on this list. So please > find another pl

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Monday 10 May 2010 17:02:35 Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 22:39, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail > > crashers were fixed! > > Speaking of which... As you are a walking bug filofax: > Even though I have to say the

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

Hi Mike! Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Mike Bird: > On Mon May 10 2010 05:47:08 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Just let them go, Adrian. When I to to fix KDE 4 for these two, I am > > "obstructing KDE 3.5 at every opportunity". Let them troll themselves > > into obscurity. At least they cannot complain t

Power Profile Actions

Is there any way as an adimistrator or user to customize the actions available in the "When ..." drop-downs under ksystemsettings -> "Advanced" -> "Power Management" -> "Edit Profiles" -> "Actions"? I find that /usr/sbin/s2both works fine on my system and is my preferred way to shut the system

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 22:39, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail > crashers were fixed! Speaking of which... As you are a walking bug filofax: Even though I have to say the d word.. What is the state of disconnected IMAP? Still killing a

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Nate Bargmann: > * On 2010 10 May 11:50 -0500, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Yes, 4.2 and now 4.4 seem to behave badly without a clean ~/.kde. I > > find that very disturbing and unstable. > > For the record, I had a clean ~/.kde for 4.2 when it hit Sid about a > year ago an

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Valentin Pavlyuchenko: > Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3 > or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4). > It's a krunner freeze when typing (usually I got it when I mistype > something). If I'm not alone, then it's definitely the bug tha

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

Hello, On pirmadienis 10 Gegužė 2010 15:57:00 Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon May 10 2010 05:46:21 Frederik Schwarzer wrote: > > You do not dicuss problems. You just repeat and repeat > > and repeat that KDE 4 is wrong and the devs are wrong > > and that KDE 3 is better. > > If you have nothing to cont

Re: kde spams .xsession-erros

Am Montag, 10. Mai 2010, 22:23:46 schrieb Frederik Schwarzer: > [Achim Schaefer - Montag 10 Mai 2010 22:17:00] > > Hi, > > > I've got a problem with the size of the file .xsession-erros. > > It seems the 4.4.3 Version of KDE likes to spam this file. > > You can disable these messages (or at lea

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

El Lunes 10 Mayo 2010 11:08:40 Dotan Cohen escribió: > Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it > difficult to use. Please be very specific so that bugs can be filed > and the software can be fixed. General statements such as "KDE4 sux" > are not welcome, as they do not giv

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

[Dotan Cohen - Montag 10 Mai 2010 22:39:27] > On 10 May 2010 22:43, David Baron wrote: > > 3. Kmail threading. Much much improved, will still crash out occasionally > > when > > deleting, moving messages. > > > > Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail > crashers

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 22:43, David Baron wrote: > I am generally happy with KDE4. A few issues, though: > > 1. Desktop startup speed. A user with few if any widgets around will be > satisfied. Those of us who want to use a lot of these tools will sit and wait. > ALL widgets and panel-applets must be asyn

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 22:28, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 16:08, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it >> difficult to use. > > Good idea. The recent messages in various threads motivated me > to do Yet Another Round Of KDE 4 Bug Fi

Re: kde spams .xsession-erros

[Achim Schaefer - Montag 10 Mai 2010 22:17:00] Hi, > I've got a problem with the size of the file .xsession-erros. > It seems the 4.4.3 Version of KDE likes to spam this file. > For me it looks like this is mainly kio_impa, as I got most of the messages > from there, but other components write

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On 6 May 2010 13:10, Marc Haber wrote: > I still hope that 4.4.3 will fix the krunner instabilities that were > introduced in 4.4. > Marc, please mention your issue on this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369 Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To

kde spams .xsession-erros

Hi, I've got a problem with the size of the file .xsession-erros. It seems the 4.4.3 Version of KDE likes to spam this file. For me it looks like this is mainly kio_impa, as I got most of the messages from there, but other components write her as well. As my system is 24H up, and usually 2 user

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

I am generally happy with KDE4. A few issues, though: 1. Desktop startup speed. A user with few if any widgets around will be satisfied. Those of us who want to use a lot of these tools will sit and wait. ALL widgets and panel-applets must be asynchronous and background any lengthy process such

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 16:08, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it > difficult to use. Good idea. The recent messages in various threads motivated me to do Yet Another Round Of KDE 4 Bug Filing. After all, if you don't tell people about what anno

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:15:02 -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 05:57:00AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > Nor are KDE 3.5 users saying that KDE 4 should not be > > packaged. The problem is KDE 4 true believers who are > > trying to prevent people from using KDE 3.5. > > Actua

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

El 10 de mayo de 2010 20:35, Dotan Cohen escribió: > > >Thanks, please mention that info on the bug. And you might want to > >vote for this Device Notifier feature request: > >http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#idea87620_page1 > > -- > Dotan C

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Monday 10 May 2010 20:25:25 Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > How many regressions did apache 2 have when apache 1.3's support was > discontinued, and how many regressions does _current_ KDE 4 have over > KDE 3.5? > From my point of view: None! (ok, to be honest, two or three very minor glitches, but

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon May 10 2010 05:04:52 Michael Thaler wrote: > In 2009 KDE was around 4.7 Million lines of code [1] and had about 450 > contributors [2]. KDE 3.5 had less lines of code and less developers, but > the numbers are the same order of magnitude. Even if you find some people > that are willing to ma

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010/5/10 Iker Salmón San Millán : > I was thinking about opening a new thread to talk about the device notifier, > but i found this message so i will do it here. > > I think there is something wrong with this plasmoid, there is a bug report > talking about it but it's being ignored for now. > http

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 20:29, Diederik de Haas wrote: > On 2010-05-10 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I also would experience Krunner freezes on backspace, KDE 4.2 - 4.3, >> but I cannot reproduce now on 4.4. I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde >> folder, can you try in a new user profile and report back? Thanks. > > I h

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 18:39, Valentin Pavlyuchenko wrote: > Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3 > or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4). > It's a krunner freeze when typing (usually I got it when I mistype something). > If I'm not alone, then it's definitely the bug that

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

Hi, On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 02:46:21PM +0200, Frederik Schwarzer wrote: > Oh, have you already been to the Apache folks telling them, > Apache 1.3 was better and they should package it instead of > the very very wrong Apache 2? Apache 1.3 was continued to be supported until Apache 2 was ready for

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

I was thinking about opening a new thread to talk about the device notifier, but i found this message so i will do it here. I think there is something wrong with this plasmoid, there is a bug report talking about it but it's being ignored for now. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226710 As y

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 2010-05-10 Dotan Cohen wrote: > I also would experience Krunner freezes on backspace, KDE 4.2 - 4.3, > but I cannot reproduce now on 4.4. I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde > folder, can you try in a new user profile and report back? Thanks. I have a brand new, clean install of 4.4.3 and I experienc

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

* On 2010 10 May 11:50 -0500, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Yes, 4.2 and now 4.4 seem to behave badly without a clean ~/.kde. I > find that very disturbing and unstable. For the record, I had a clean ~/.kde for 4.2 when it hit Sid about a year ago and upgraded the offered KDE packages through 4.3.4, IIRC

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 19:33, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Dotan, > > I think you may have already responded to these in another thread but > after upgrading to 4.4 a few days ago and with a "clean" slate (by > moving .kde and some other 'dot' directories out of the way) I'm down to > one daily annoyance as you

Re: Kontack and akonadi: a "dirty" workaround

Hi Marco, On Monday 10 May 2010, Marco Valli wrote: > Hi all, here is a little and dirty :) workaround to have kontact and > akonadi work at first launch - i tried all methods without success. > 1) put kaddressbook in automatic start minimized and with no icon on > taskbar 2) change the menu and/o

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Dotan, I think you may have already responded to these in another thread but after upgrading to 4.4 a few days ago and with a "clean" slate (by moving .kde and some other 'dot' directories out of the way) I'm down to one daily annoyance as you've already addressed in the BTS--Konsole beep. The ot

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Ok. If it will not help, I'll write it. Best regards, Valentin Pavlyuchenko 2010/5/10 Dotan Cohen : > On 10 May 2010 18:39, Valentin Pavlyuchenko wrote: >> Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3 >> or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4). >> It's a krunner freeze w

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

> Probably you expect those that complained about KDE4  to write here all > their complaints. For me KDE is good enough, but needs to be improved a > lot in these sections: > -knetworkmanager. It fails to activate the wifi card if something shut > it, and you need to write in konsole: ifconfig wlan

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 05:57:00AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > Nor are KDE 3.5 users saying that KDE 4 should not be > packaged. The problem is KDE 4 true believers who are > trying to prevent people from using KDE 3.5. Actually, the problem is that nobody cares enough about KDE 3.5 to actually do

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

On 10 May 2010 18:39, Valentin Pavlyuchenko wrote: > Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3 > or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4). > It's a krunner freeze when typing (usually I got it when I mistype something). > If I'm not alone, then it's definitely the bug that

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Alle lunedì 10 maggio 2010, Dotan Cohen ha scritto: > Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it > difficult to use. Please be very specific so that bugs can be filed > and the software can be fixed. General statements such as "KDE4 sux" > are not welcome, as they do not give

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3 or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4). It's a krunner freeze when typing (usually I got it when I mistype something). If I'm not alone, then it's definitely the bug that must be solved. -- Best regards, Valentin Pavlyuchenko

Kontack and akonadi: a "dirty" workaround

Hi all, here is a little and dirty :) workaround to have kontact and akonadi work at first launch - i tried all methods without success. 1) put kaddressbook in automatic start minimized and with no icon on taskbar 2) change the menu and/or panel icon to launch kontact in this way: killall kaddress

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

Hi, > KDE 3.5 is not dead. It has many active users and a few active > maintainers, such as Trinity. In 2009 KDE was around 4.7 Million lines of code [1] and had about 450 contributors [2]. KDE 3.5 had less lines of code and less developers, but the numbers are the same order of magnitude. Eve

Re: Problem with ALC662 Intel HDA

Alle lunedì 10 maggio 2010, Leonardo Meira ha scritto: > Hello everybody, > > I have a problem with my sound card (nVidia Corporation MCP67 High > Definition Audio | ALC662 High Definition Audio) and I would like you > to indicate the best location and the best way for me to report the > bug that

What needs to improve in KDE 4?

Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it difficult to use. Please be very specific so that bugs can be filed and the software can be fixed. General statements such as "KDE4 sux" are not welcome, as they do not give any indication as to what can be fixed. Comparisons to KDE

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On 10 May 2010 16:02, Mike Bird wrote: > If you'd like to poll Debian users as to what > needs fixing in KDE 4, please start a new thread. > I will give you the benefit of the doubt, Mike, and I am starting such a thread. Please contribute to it in a productive manner, as your input as a KDE 3 us

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Mike Bird - Montag 10 Mai 2010 14:57:00] > On Mon May 10 2010 05:46:21 Frederik Schwarzer wrote: > > You do not dicuss problems. You just repeat and repeat > > and repeat that KDE 4 is wrong and the devs are wrong > > and that KDE 3 is better. > > If you have nothing to contribute to this thread

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon May 10 2010 05:47:08 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Just let them go, Adrian. When I to to fix KDE 4 for these two, I am > "obstructing KDE 3.5 at every opportunity". Let them troll themselves > into obscurity. At least they cannot complain that nobody tried to > help them get the features they need i

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon May 10 2010 05:14:57 Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > So far most of the "discussion" has been whining about where KDE 4 is > > perceived to be worse than KDE 3.5 and whining that "somebody should > please > > do something". > > KDE 4 has far

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon May 10 2010 05:46:21 Frederik Schwarzer wrote: > You do not dicuss problems. You just repeat and repeat > and repeat that KDE 4 is wrong and the devs are wrong > and that KDE 3 is better. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread please stop trolling. This thread is about how to res

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Mike Bird - Montag 10 Mai 2010 14:38:59] > On Mon May 10 2010 05:14:57 Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > So far most of the "discussion" has been whining about where KDE 4 is > > perceived to be worse than KDE 3.5 and whining that "somebody should please > > do something". > > KDE 4 has far more prob

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On 10 May 2010 15:38, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon May 10 2010 05:14:57 Adrian von Bidder wrote: >> So far most of the "discussion" has been whining about where KDE 4 is >> perceived to be worse than KDE 3.5 and whining that "somebody should please >> do something". > > KDE 4 has far more problems -

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon May 10 2010 05:14:57 Adrian von Bidder wrote: > So far most of the "discussion" has been whining about where KDE 4 is > perceived to be worse than KDE 3.5 and whining that "somebody should please > do something". KDE 4 has far more problems - both conceptually and in implementation - than K

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Monday 10 May 2010 12.57:18 Mike Bird wrote: > Please don't interfere with discussions about rescuing KDE 3.5. So far most of the "discussion" has been whining about where KDE 4 is perceived to be worse than KDE 3.5 and whining that "somebody should please do something". If the discussion st

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Mon May 10 2010 03:09:46 Michael Thaler wrote: > > KDE upstream has run off the rails. There are a lot of people > > both here and elsewhere trying to discuss how best to proceed. > > Can you please stop this? There are a lot of people who see KDE 4 as an > improvement compared to KDE 3 (includ

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

On Sun May 9 2010 23:22:47 Adrian von Bidder wrote: > KDE 3.5 in Debian is dead unless you start working on it. There is nobody > (else) who is ready to do the work. KDE upstream has run off the rails. There are a lot of people both here and elsewhere trying to discuss how best to proceed. --M