Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Ferdinand Thommes
Am Dienstag 11 Mai 2010, 21:10:18 schrieb Dotan Cohen: > On 11 May 2010 09:15, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > On Monday 10 May 2010 16.08:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it > >> difficult to use. > > > > Nepomuk / Strigi need to improve a *lo

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread cobaco
On Tuesday 11 May 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 08:58:17AM +0200, cobaco wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 May 2010, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > > On Monday 10 May 2010 18.12:46 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > > I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde > > > > folder, can you try in a new user p

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Allen
At this moment, for me, kaddressbook? Akonadi did not get configured right, I had to follow this advice to get it to start working: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=79717&sid=ce96096a96a9d8ca3ebb13105dce3d21&start=10#p137002 Having done that yesterday I noticed that the concept of co

KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-11 Thread Mike Kasick
Folks, I've looked around the "KDE 4.4.3 in unstable" thread and elsewhere, and I didn't see this specific issue come up, although I think it's generally well known. In any event, I upgraded my unstable machine today, which was a few weeks behind, and it pulled in KDE 4.4.3. First thing I notice

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Frederik Schwarzer
[B. Alexander - Mittwoch 12 Mai 2010 00:56:43] > clicking Desktop Activity Settings causes my to disappear your what? (did it disappear from this email as well?) Spooky :) Regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread B. Alexander
I just upgraded my workstation to 4.4.3, and I ran into a problem where right clicking on the desktop and clicking Desktop Activity Settings causes my to disappear. I tried it three times and all three, it happened (please see Einstein's definition of insanity...) I am running compiz on top of KDE

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 11 May 15:50 -0500, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:22:35PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > Is it guaranteed that KDE doesn't store anything outside of ~/.kde so > > > that a user doesn't risk things getting desynched if one exchanges one > > > ~/.kde with a different one?

Re: memory usage

2010-05-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 11 May 14:44 -0500, Marcus Better wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Florian Kulzer wrote: > > with such large applications. Have you already tried to set > > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to zero? > > After some initial testing, I think it did the trick! Amazing, th

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:22:35PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Is it guaranteed that KDE doesn't store anything outside of ~/.kde so > > that a user doesn't risk things getting desynched if one exchanges one > > ~/.kde with a different one? > > No, Akonadi stores some stuff in ~/.config/ So one

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
I ccd you since you ccd me. Please do not cc me in the future. I read the list and that new thread grouping features of KMail are really handy ;). Am Dienstag 11 Mai 2010 schrieb Dotan Cohen: > On 11 May 2010 00:58, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Nate Bargmann: > >>

Re: memory usage

2010-05-11 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Kulzer wrote: > with such large applications. Have you already tried to set > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to zero? After some initial testing, I think it did the trick! Amazing, thanks a lot! The default swappiness setting (60) seems to be a horr

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Facundo Aguilera
El Martes 11 Mayo 2010 15:18:30 Dotan Cohen escribió: > > Thanks, Facundo. It seems that the proxy configuration is only for kio > slaves: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186872 > > But that bug requests that the KDE proxy configuration apply to all > apps. Please comment there. Thanks. Ye

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Is it guaranteed that KDE doesn't store anything outside of ~/.kde so > that a user doesn't risk things getting desynched if one exchanges one > ~/.kde with a different one? > No, Akonadi stores some stuff in ~/.config/ -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 18:00, Luis Felipe Tabera wrote: > On Tuesday May 11 2010, Tim Rühsen wrote: >> KMail >>  - click on 'New Message' >>  - click into message body (i am using a custom template for new messages) >>  - ctrl-f, type something not findable into the search window and press >> return - cl

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 16:47, Tim Rühsen wrote: > KMail >  - click on 'New Message' >  - click into message body (i am using a custom template for new messages) >  - ctrl-f, type something not findable into the search window and press return >  - click OK in window 'no matches found' >  - move the mouse c

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 12:16, Marcus Better wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I though that all the serious Kmail crashers were fixed! > > How about this little gem that I reported in 2008 (Crash when deleting > messages): >  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.c

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
> For that matter, return Konqui to a lot of places!  Seems he's been sent > out to dragon pasture in KDE4.  :-( > Maybe some knight got to him! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 09:15, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Monday 10 May 2010 16.08:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it >> difficult to use. > > Nepomuk / Strigi need to improve a *lot*. > > * Strigi sucks up all disk bandwidth and, given enough time,

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 09:11, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Dotan, > > On Monday 10 May 2010 18.12:46 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde >> folder, can you try in a new user profile and report back? > > I hate it when this shows up.  Yes, it's probably easier to debug, but often > bugs *do*

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 04:08, godo wrote: > Few thing's that I really ned or miss me from KDE 3: > > Konsole Profiles widget -there is only Shell. In 3 was Root Shell, Python > Shell etc. > List them all, I'll file an issue. Bonus points for a screenshot. > Info/Error Message -in 3 you can select and c

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 01:02, Richard Hartmann wrote: > Speaking of which... As you are a walking bug filofax: > Even though I have to say the d word.. What is the state of > disconnected IMAP? Still killing a few thousands emails > sometimes, as with KDE 3? > Fixed! With Akonadi as the IMAP cache: http:

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 00:58, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Nate Bargmann: >> * On 2010 10 May 11:50 -0500, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> > Yes, 4.2 and now 4.4 seem to behave badly without a clean ~/.kde. I >> > find that very disturbing and unstable. >> >> For the record, I had a cle

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 00:49, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Valentin Pavlyuchenko: >> Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3 >> or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4). >> It's a krunner freeze when typing (usually I got it when I mistype >> somethi

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 00:20, Facundo Aguilera wrote: > El Lunes 10 Mayo 2010 11:08:40 Dotan Cohen escribió: >> Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it >> difficult to use. Please be very specific so that bugs can be filed >> and the software can be fixed. General statements such

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso
On Tuesday May 11 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > Is it guaranteed that KDE doesn't store anything outside of ~/.kde so > that a user doesn't risk things getting desynched if one exchanges one > ~/.kde with a different one? Well, akonadi stuff is not inside .kde, but .local/share The reasoning is that

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:16:02AM +0200, Marcus Better wrote: > I'm proud to report that this has now reached 100 duplicates and is the > third most often reported open bug in KDE. :-) And it is still present in KDE 4.4's kmail, especially when quickly deleting a lot of messages over a slow link

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 08:58:17AM +0200, cobaco wrote: > On Tuesday 11 May 2010, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > On Monday 10 May 2010 18.12:46 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > I started 4.4 on a new ~/.kde > > > folder, can you try in a new user profile and report back? > > > > I hate it when this sho

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera
On Tuesday May 11 2010, Tim Rühsen wrote: > KMail > - click on 'New Message' > - click into message body (i am using a custom template for new messages) > - ctrl-f, type something not findable into the search window and press > return - click OK in window 'no matches found' > - move the mouse

Re: Kontack and akonadi: a "dirty" workaround

2010-05-11 Thread Marco Valli
> if you want a workaround, could you try to put "akonadictl start" into > autostart? Doesn't work for me. regards ps sorry for the misprint: killall kaddressbook & kontact -- Marco Valli -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Tim Rühsen
KMail - click on 'New Message' - click into message body (i am using a custom template for new messages) - ctrl-f, type something not findable into the search window and press return - click OK in window 'no matches found' - move the mouse cursor over the kmail menu / toolbar - it is INVISIBLE

Re: memory usage

2010-05-11 Thread Christoph Burgmer
Am Dienstag, 11. Mai 2010 schrieb Sune Vuorela: > Except I only have 512mb ram in my laptop, it matches my experience of > eclipse. Nice to hear that I'm not the only one with this "ancient" configuration. For me 4.4.3 made things much worse, and no Eclipse included. Not sure if only the new pre

Re: memory usage

2010-05-11 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-05-11, Marcus Better wrote: > The system will often grind to a halt for several minutes while iotop shows > that it is busy swapping, usually swapping in the Eclipse process. The most > annoying thing is that KDE becomes totally unresponsive during all this > time, I cannot even move th

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread David Baron
On Monday 10 May 2010 23:59:40 Frederik Schwarzer wrote: > [Dotan Cohen - Montag 10 Mai 2010 22:39:27] > > > On 10 May 2010 22:43, David Baron wrote: > > > 3. Kmail threading. Much much improved, will still crash out > > > occasionally when deleting, moving messages. > > > > Really? Please file

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 11 May 02:19 -0500, Valentin Pavlyuchenko wrote: > 2010/5/11 godo : > > Few thing's that I really ned or miss me from KDE 3: > > > > KDE dragon pic in logout window :-) > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/Kdelogout.png > > > > Yeah, > Of course it's not a bug, but please re

Re: memory usage

2010-05-11 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Kulzer wrote: > I would say it should. Your problem might be caused by preemptive > swapping out of "idle" processes, which can make sense on a server but > can create severe latency problems on (desk|lap)top systems, This is very interesting.

Re: memory usage

2010-05-11 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:03:02 +0200, Marcus Better wrote: > Boris Bobrov wrote: > >> 1.3g 5808 S1 34.5 15:33.26 java > > Is the problem. > > Try htop, it'll show all processes. > > Thanks, but I already know that it is Eclipse, and htop doesn't show > anything new except a few dozen threa

Re: memory usage

2010-05-11 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Boris Bobrov wrote: >> 1.3g 5808 S1 34.5 15:33.26 java > Is the problem. > Try htop, it'll show all processes. Thanks, but I already know that it is Eclipse, and htop doesn't show anything new except a few dozen threads in that process. Still,

Re: memory usage

2010-05-11 Thread Boris Bobrov
Hi, Marcus. > 1.3g 5808 S1 34.5 15:33.26 java Is the problem. Try htop, it'll show all processes. Вторник 11 мая 2010 14:30:01 you wrote: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

memory usage

2010-05-11 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, this may not strictly be about (just) KDE, but I'm experiencing really excessive swapping activity on my laptop since a little while back. The most recent major change is the upgrade to KDE 4.4.3. I had all the previous KDE 4 versions in Debian

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dotan Cohen wrote: > I though that all the serious Kmail crashers were fixed! How about this little gem that I reported in 2008 (Crash when deleting messages): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163071 I'm proud to report that this has now reach

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag 11 Mai 2010 schrieb Mike Bird: > On Mon May 10 2010 15:20:52 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > This list is not for development issues like developing / maintaining > > KDE 3.5 packages for Squeeze. > > > > So IMHO any further request for KDE 3.5 in Squeeze is off topic on > > this list as

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread Valentin Pavlyuchenko
2010/5/11 godo : > Few thing's that I really ned or miss me from KDE 3: > > KDE dragon pic in logout window :-) > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/Kdelogout.png > Yeah, Of course it's not a bug, but please return Konqi in logout window! :D -- Best regards, Valentin Pavlyuchenko --

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-11 Thread cobaco
On Monday 10 May 2010, Valentin Pavlyuchenko wrote: > Well, I have an issue that remained on my Debian system from KDE 4.3 > or even 4.2 (And I have it now in 4.4). > It's a krunner freeze when typing (usually I got it when I mistype > something). If I'm not alone, then it's definitely the bug that