Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 12 May 2010 17:22:21 Alejandro Exojo wrote: > El Miércoles, 12 de Mayo de 2010, Frederik Schwarzer escribió: > > If you want to have these images there in case they are needed, keep the > > folder, if disk space is more important than loading speed, remove it > > regularily. > > Of co

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Miércoles, 12 de Mayo de 2010, Frederik Schwarzer escribió: > If you want to have these images there in case they are needed, keep the > folder, if disk space is more important than loading speed, remove it > regularily. Of course, that's what I do. But a plain user should not be asked to regul

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 12 May 2010 11:18, Modestas Vainius wrote: > It's unfortunate that apparently KDE 4.4 nepomuk is like KDE 4.0 release was > for the rest of SC. What are distros like Debian supposed to do if they have > to ship with 4.4? I don't care about nepomuk but, uh, this unpolished product > ended up int

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Kasick
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:48:43AM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > > - Disable "kres-migrator".  Or at least add a debconf option to > >  kdepim-runtime presenting the option of running kres-migrator by default > >  or disabling it. > > Did you do any research as to what the longer-term implicat

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Kasick
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 04:51:23PM +0200, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > I think that disk usage is an issue in most software, not just KDE apps. > For example, look at ~/.thumbnails, and you will see that is probably > filled with many thumbnails of images that you deleted long ago or that > you saw ju

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Kasick
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:48:43AM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > > - Disable "kres-migrator".  Or at least add a debconf option to > >  kdepim-runtime presenting the option of running kres-migrator by default > >  or disabling it. > > Did you do any research as to what the longer-term implicat

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Kasick
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 04:51:23PM +0200, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > I think that disk usage is an issue in most software, not just KDE apps. > For example, look at ~/.thumbnails, and you will see that is probably > filled with many thumbnails of images that you deleted long ago or that > you saw ju

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Kasick
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:41:35AM +0200, Kevin Krammer wrote: > Since you are writing a bit down that you think it is caused by > kres-migrator, > where did you get it from (here it seems to be part of the kdepim-runtime > package). Yes, kres-migrator is part of kdepim-runtime. I do have tha

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 12 May 2010 11:47:08 Modestas Vainius wrote: > On trečiadienis 12 Gegužė 2010 18:48:04 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Virtuoso, Akonadi, and Strigi (among > > others) may be appropriate for a upgrade before either the freeze or the > > KDE SC 4.5.0 release. The KDE-integration part

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Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Christoph Burgmer
Am Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2010 schrieb Alejandro Exojo: > El Miércoles, 12 de Mayo de 2010, Christoph Burgmer escribió: > > Am Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2010 schrieb Alejandro Exojo: > > > I think that disk usage is an issue in most software, not just KDE > > > apps. For example, look at ~/.thumbnails, and you

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On trečiadienis 12 Gegužė 2010 18:48:04 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Options: > 1. Conspire to keep the RC-bug count high enough on other packages for > long enough that KDE 4.5 gets into testing. > 2. Convince upstream to to release KDE SC 4.4½.0 before the freeze, or > roll these new

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Frederik Schwarzer
[Alejandro Exojo - Mittwoch 12 Mai 2010 18:28:35] > El Miércoles, 12 de Mayo de 2010, Christoph Burgmer escribió: > > Am Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2010 schrieb Alejandro Exojo: > > > I think that disk usage is an issue in most software, not just KDE apps. > > > For example, look at ~/.thumbnails, and you

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Miércoles, 12 de Mayo de 2010, Christoph Burgmer escribió: > Am Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2010 schrieb Alejandro Exojo: > > I think that disk usage is an issue in most software, not just KDE apps. > > For example, look at ~/.thumbnails, and you will see that is probably > > filled with many thumbnails o

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Christoph Burgmer
Am Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2010 schrieb Noah Meyerhans: > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:48:43AM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > > > - Long term: Don't use MySQL as the default Akonadi backend, which is > > > currently infeasible. > > > > It is my understanding that KDE 4.5 will let you choose different >

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 12 May 2010 10:14:52 Noah Meyerhans wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:48:43AM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > > > - Long term: Don't use MySQL as the default Akonadi backend, which is > > > currently infeasible. > > > > It is my understanding that KDE 4.5 will let you choose differ

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Christoph Burgmer
Am Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2010 schrieb Alejandro Exojo: > I think that disk usage is an issue in most software, not just KDE apps. > For example, look at ~/.thumbnails, and you will see that is probably > filled with many thumbnails of images that you deleted long ago or that > you saw just once. Same t

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:48:43AM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > > - Long term: Don't use MySQL as the default Akonadi backend, which is > >  currently infeasible. > > It is my understanding that KDE 4.5 will let you choose different > backends. Recent threads on this list suggest that 4.5 wil

Re: SIP Phone Alternatives

2010-05-12 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Vie 07 May 2010 21:07:19 Mark Purcell escribió: > On Saturday 08 May 2010 09:52:24 Leonardo Meira wrote: > > In Lenny I use Twinkle to use my SIP phone account. > > But in Squeeze I'd like to use another application in the place of > > Twinkle. Preferentially a software better integrated to the

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Miércoles, 12 de Mayo de 2010, Mike Kasick escribió: > Apologies for my rant.  I just can't comprehend how such disk usage is even > remotely acceptable for PIM usage patterns. Thanks a lot for doing this research. I've noticed that Akonadi takes a lot of space in ~/.local and I was concerned,

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 11 May 2010 21.10:18 Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 11 May 2010 09:15, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > On Monday 10 May 2010 16.08:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> Please tell us what problems, bugs, or issues KDE 4 that make it > >> difficult to use. > > > > Nepomuk / Strigi need to improve a *lot*.

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 02:53, Mike Kasick wrote: > - Long term: Don't use MySQL as the default Akonadi backend, which is >  currently infeasible. It is my understanding that KDE 4.5 will let you choose different backends. > - Disable "kres-migrator".  Or at least add a debconf option to >  kd

Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home

2010-05-12 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday, 2010-05-12, Mike Kasick wrote: > KDE 4 uses Akonadi as its PIM storage backend. Akonadi, at least in > unstable, only supports MySQL (and PostgreSQL) as backends. And the > default configuration of Akonadi is to run a per-user instance of MySQL > with InnoDB tables with two 64 MB t

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread B. Alexander
Sorry...My panel... On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Frederik Schwarzer wrote: > [B. Alexander - Mittwoch 12 Mai 2010 00:56:43] > > > clicking Desktop Activity Settings causes my to disappear > > your what? (did it disappear from this email as well?) Spooky :) > > Regards > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On trečiadienis 12 Gegužė 2010 10:35:25 Dotan Cohen wrote: > Please test Strigi and Nepomuk in KDE Trunk / 4.5, and if you have > problems let me know or file issues. It's all been heavily reworked > and should really be usable now. It's unfortunate that apparently KDE 4.4 nepomuk is like

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2010-05-11, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 11 May 2010 12:16, Marcus Better wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> I though that all the serious Kmail crashers were fixed! > > > > How about this little gem that I reported in 2008 (Crash

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday, 2010-05-11, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Monday 10 May 2010 17:02:35 Richard Hartmann wrote: > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 22:39, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > Really? Please file those crashes! I though that all the serious Kmail > > > crashers were fixed! > > > > Speaking of which...

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 12 May 2010 10:39, Kevin Krammer wrote: >> Yes, 4.2 and now 4.4 seem to behave badly without a clean ~/.kde. I >> find that very disturbing and unstable. > > This might depends somewhat on the actual configuration. > I have been upgrading this machine since early KDE3 times, always using the >

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Monday, 2010-05-10, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 10 May 2010 19:33, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > for *my use* I have found KDE 4.4 quite pleasant over the past few days, > > perhaps aided by moving the old config directories out of the way. > > Device Notifier is now useful for me due to the tip provid

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 12 May 2010 09:58, Ferdinand Thommes wrote: >> > Nepomuk / Strigi need to improve a *lot*. > yes, for sure It has, it's down to 2 MB of memory in KDE 4.5. >> What version? Strigi in 4.4 seems rather usable, those issues sound >> like familiar 4.3 issues. > > The whole virtuoso/strigi ensembl

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 12 May 2010 03:37, Allen wrote: > At this moment, for me, kaddressbook?  Akonadi did not  get configured right, > I > had to follow this advice to get it to start working: > http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=79717&sid=ce96096a96a9d8ca3ebb13105dce3d21&start=10#p137002 > > Having done th

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 12 May 2010 01:56, B. Alexander wrote: > I just upgraded my workstation to 4.4.3, and I ran into a problem where > right clicking on the desktop and clicking Desktop Activity Settings causes > my to disappear. It seems to not only have disappeared, but to have actually been removed from histor

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2010-05-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 22:41, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > I ccd you since you ccd me. Please do not cc me in the future. I read the > list and that new thread grouping features of KMail are really handy ;). > Oops, sorry, I'll try to pay attention to that more in the future. I apologize. >> > IMHO when