Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 18:29:35 Alexey Eromenko wrote: > I prefer something in between. Stable core (I couldn't care less which > version of glibc is there, as long as it works) but with latest killer > features for Home users. Then use Arch or Ubuntu or OpenSuSE. > And copying files to/fro

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:58:17PM +0100, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: > > History: > > USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed > > to replace the USB Mass Storage. > > > > Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is > > block-device-level protoc

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
A Dimecres, 6 de febrer de 2013, Alexey Eromenko va escriure: > History: > USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed > to replace the USB Mass Storage. > > Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is > block-device-level protocol. And if PC goes power

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:57:45PM +0200, David Baron wrote: > These are excerpted from ~$ locate mtp | grep usr mtpfs doesn't work (#654939) and when it does it's too unreliable. Command-line tools are not an option because in this case you can just use adb. kio_kamera is read-only and unreliable.

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Alexey Eromenko
I prefer something in between. Stable core (I couldn't care less which version of glibc is there, as long as it works) but with latest killer features for Home users. And copying files to/from smartphone counts as a killer feature. Long-term problem : There must be easy way to add killer features

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 17:33:05 Alexey Eromenko wrote: > History: > USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed > to replace the USB Mass Storage. > > Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is > block-device-level protocol. And if PC goes power

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread David Baron
On Wednesday 06 February 2013 19:33:05 Alexey Eromenko wrote: > History: > USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed > to replace the USB Mass Storage. > > Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is > block-device-level protocol. And if PC goes power

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Alexey Eromenko
History: USB MTP (universal serial bus - media transfer protocol) was developed to replace the USB Mass Storage. Problem with mass storage is that it is not reliable - it is block-device-level protocol. And if PC goes power down (or blue screen, on certain O.S) the data on the smartphone will be d

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 06:13:26PM +0100, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: > I think that yo are a bit dramatic. Just to configure your android device to > use usb as msc It is just not possible with certain newer devices. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda
I think that yo are a bit dramatic. Just to configure your android device to use usb as msc, mot mtp and you see your fantastic phone as a simple usb. Another question is caldav and carddav... Sent from my mobile Alexey Eromenko ha escrit: >>> >> I wasn't aware Debian had a priority to work o

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Pino Toscano
Hi, Alle mercoledì 6 febbraio 2013, Alexey Eromenko ha scritto: > Debian 7.0 (upcoming "Wheezy") needs MTP support in it's KDE in order > to be relevant. Arguable POV. > Debian needs to backport this killer feature into it's KDE, else > Android 4.x devices (such as samrtphones and tablets) will

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Alexey Eromenko
>> > I wasn't aware Debian had a priority to work on mobile devices. > It is not "work on", but "work with". Modern O.S. should be able to sync with Smartphone. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 02/06/2013 10:21 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: Without this feature, Debian is simply not ready to enter the post-PC era. Integration with Android is a must. There's a post-PC era? I'm pretty sure most people still do and still will do most of their computing on desktop/laptop PCs. -- To UNS

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Alexey Eromenko
Without this feature, Debian is simply not ready to enter the post-PC era. Integration with Android is a must. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: Deebian 7.0 needs to support MTP (for Android), else it will lose relevance

2013-02-06 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 02/06/2013 10:19 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: Debian 7.0 (upcoming "Wheezy") needs MTP support in it's KDE in order to be relevant. Debian needs to backport this killer feature into it's KDE, else Android 4.x devices (such as samrtphones and tablets) will not work with Debian. http://www.afies