> I guess that means the nifty menu editor GUI won't work if you're not
> using the vFolder categorizer, but IMHO if we have to have a nifty menu
> editor GUI for our end users we've failed to provide a worthwhile menu
> system anyway. (Well, you see Bob, our default menus suck, but you can
> us
> Here's the menu rewrite plan in a nutshell:
8< snip the good stuff 8<
Great, this looks awesome. Thanks! It will be very cool to have complete,
internationalised menus in Debian.
> - GNOME2 and KDE 3.1 can deal with these .desktop files the same way
> they deal with any other .desktop fi
> Jeff, while all you write above is true and the vFolder spec is the
> mechanism which will be used (as I gather), I thought this discussion was
> not about "how to do that technically" but "how to organize the layout". I
> doubt vFolder will automagically categorize applications, put them in th
> That said, i guess this is against the wish of the upstream gnome team,
> so politics again, and their stupid opinion that they know best what
> should go on _my_ desktop than me, or rather that they only target 'real
> users' for gnome 2, 'real users' which would be confused by anything out
>
> So we are supposed to throw the debian menu system aside, and use the
> freedesktop stuff as replacement ? And all other WMs have to adapt ?
Given that Debian's shift to the .desktop format has already been proposed
(and work proceeds on its implementation), and that the menu system will
need
> Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I think this thread could do with a good helping of spec-reading. :-)
> >
> > http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/VFolderDesktops.txt
>
> I looked at that, and it's almost completely impossible to understa
> I'm confused -- why do you say `No' when the rest of what you write seems
> to agree with what was said?
>
> That is, isn't vFolder/.desktop a _mechanism_, with which the debian menu
> structure could be conveniently displayed by Gnome/KDE (replacing the
> normal Gnome/KDE menu structure)?
No
> > In other words, we should be using a unified Debian menu structure with
> > appropriate tweaks for certain environments (and in particular, _not_ using
> > the default Gnome/KDE menu structures).
>
> Yup.
No... The point behind the vFolder spec is that both GNOME and KDE can show
all of t
> I don't think it's bad to prejudice the displayed menus toward the
> `current environment', but I think the difference between the menus
> displayed when using a Gnome desktop and those displayed when using a KDE
> desktop should be fairly minor -- along the lines of different apps
> showing up
> I'm with the "Want to group like tasks with like" camp, myself. But why
> not make it an Option[tm] ?
*smack*
> Have a configurable bit in the menu program called "Flatten Debian" or
> something, which will fold any "/Debian" menu into the level above it.
Do not make user preferences as an
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