mber the particulars. I
only had to set xhosts, but I'm behind a firewall, so security wasn't my
biggest concern.
I actuaally had both my regular Linux sysstem and a UML linux system
displaying X at once, with the UML system inside it's own window
Cheers,
John Gay
On Fri 05 Dec 2003 09:50, Mauro Darida wrote:
> How to retrieve the password which kmail holds obfuscated in .kmailrc ?
> I use kde 3.1.2 on woody.
I once asked this question on another list. Someone sent me a small program
that could de-scramble it, but that was several boxes ago so I no longer
lay around with testing again since the png fiasco a while
ago.
As long as the people who know are aware of the issues I'm sure they can
organise a clean upgrade.
Thanks for the clarification and the info.
Cheers,
John Gay
While you were gone, there was a comment that sid is currently incompatible
with the woody .deb's being offered at kde.org
Can you do something to ensure a more orderly upgrade?
Cheers,
John Gay
syncing the different parts for major
changes like the GCC-3.1 upgrade and such, but otherwise let each part
advance on it's own. This would prevent unofficial packages such as the new
KDE ones that will cause so many headaches during the next freeze.
Just a thought.
Cheers,
John Gay
able and unstable libs. This
also gets around the problems of different versions of GCC being used to
compile the different libs.
I don't have the actual source site as I'm at work, but I have used it to
update my woody system so I know it works.
Cheers,
John Gay
of anything (-;
>And so I honestly don't see a good solution to this. Can I please have
>some opinions on which of these solutions is least bad?
>
Well, to be honest, I think getting up-stream to merge the kde-i18n and
koffice-i18n is the best solution, but realistically I think the modified
option 2 is the more practical.
>Ben. :)
>
But these are just my observations.
Cheers,
John Gay
>
shared
objects properly? I suppose that's one of those 'easier said than done'
things.
Thanks again for the details. It helps me understand what is happening
better so I can give better explainations when people ask these questions.
Cheers,
John Gay
an
>XFree86 upstream though.
>
Yes, and the X-Strike force certainly do a wonderful job ensuring that
XFree86 can support as many arch's as possible.
Thanks for the explainations! It's good to know where all these things come
from and where they are heading.
Cheers,
John Gay
-)
>
I'm sure there are others who know even more about this than I do who can
give better explainations. I'm interested in hearing more on this subject
as well.
Cheers,
John Gay
ad.
Of course I'd love to read more about this PIC -VS- non-PIC issue and what
it means in real terms for Linux and programming in general.
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John Gay
And if so, then how can I add the font for gs
to print it properly?
Sorry if this is to non-KDE, but I know that CUPS, qt and KDE are all
inter-related. After all, it's hard to build any of them without the
others.
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John Gay
uses. Get 2 months FREE*.
>
I thought MSN was the main distributors of viruses (-;
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There
are also quite a few UNIX teaching sites as well. Anything about UNIX can
usually be applied directly to a Linux box.
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John Gay
e and uploading
it to the kde site? I've tried compiling from sources I have, but I don't
understand how Debian sets the QTDIR and KDEDIR and building debian
packages just scare me ;-)
Just a humble request.
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John Gay
ike Debian, I'd keep clear, unless you are good at creating your
own .deb's.
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John Gay
in.
Has anyone else noticed this? Is anyone seeing this with KDE-3.1.1? Since I'm
on a pay-per-minute dial-up line, it will take a while to upgrade the 102MB
needed to get from KDE-3.1.0 to KDE-3.1.1
Just thought I'd mention this interesting bug.
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John Gay
ce by default now.
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John Gay
> > I still don't see KDE_3_1_1_RELEASE tags. I read that distributors got
> > the source on Tuesday and Debian is already shipping KDE 3.1.1 binary
> > packages.
>
> The packages are not final yet, there is still at least one compile
problem
> in Quanta to sort out.
>
> Debian does special stuff
er school is
also using KDE-3.1 on Debian via diskless terminals and she is complaining
that it takes too long to load. Debian has some greate points, but on
limited/special hardware set-ups, custom configuration and building can
yield some great improvements.
>Ralf
>
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John Gay
other 'well known tricks' to improve performance on
lighter hardware? I'm compiling a full KDE-3.1 desktop system from scratch
on a 200mHz PentiumMMX with 196M memory for my daughter so I'd like to get
as much speed improvements as possible ;-)
>-d
>
>--
>Daniel Stone
>
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John Gay
system when apt-get was introduced.
Progeny introduced the Debian way to many after Corel made a b00!!:* of
trying to bring Debian to the desktop.
>BTW the new Knoppix 3.2 is using my packages also it seems :-)
>
Imitation is the sincerest form of flatery,
>Ralf
>
Great work all round!
Cheers,
John Gay
e proven example that Ralf's .deb's cleanly
upgrade a Woody system.
Cheers,
John Gay
ing that, though, if someone is going to go to the bother and risk of
compiling non-debian apps on their system, this is one way to highlight the
depreciated headers and hopefully getting compaints sent up-stream to get
these fixed. They should certainly be reading any and all README files
before compiling stuff on their box.
Cheers,
John Gay
On Tue 25 Feb 2003 23:10, John Schmidt wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 February 2003 3:05 pm, John Gay wrote:
> > I've been dreading this, but here goes:
> >
> > I'm going to do a full upgrade from KDE2.2.2 to KDE3.1 on my Woody
> > system. Since Ralfs page does no
keep my KMail and knode access settings.
Does anyone know of any other dire consequences of this action? My other
option, that I've given a lot of thought to was to just re-build my box as an
LFS system and install KDE3.1 from source directly.
Cheers,
John Gay
A while back, I built KDE3.1BETA2 and my daughter really liked the 3D
rendered Dragon. Now she wants it for her new system she's building, but I
don't want her working with an old BETA version now that 3.1 is released.
How can I change the splash screen image?
Cheers,
John Gay
everything. From what I have heard so far, Only people who've used other
debs, or mixed testing and unstable into their mix are having problems. I'll
report on how this goes. If anyone knows of any issues, Please let me know
BEFORE I'm hit with them.
Thanks to everyone involved for the work so far.
Cheers,
John Gay
bably be
most welcome to the KDE and QT teams.
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John Gay
e, this is just my opinion and my reasoning behind it.
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the object prelinking
site the last time I checked into it.
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John Gay
up my courage to re-build my system from scratch once the
KDE3.1 sources are released. Call my crazy, call me a masochist, just don't
call me late for dinner ;-)
Thank you to everyone and have a Happy New Year!
Cheers,
John Gay
On Mon 30 Dec 2002 22:43, Jarno Elonen wrote:
> > Right-click the icon in question and select properties. This should open
> > a properties window for the device. You will need to find where the
> > device is selected and fix it to match your entries in /etc/fstab. In
> > 2.2.2 the Device is in the
On Sat 28 Dec 2002 00:01, you wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 08:05:28PM +0000, John Gay scrawled:
> > Thanks for the info. I found it, but as you say, it should be the MTA's
> > responsibility not mine.
>
> Right - the first MTA it hits. Not Debian's, not XFree86&
On Fri 27 Dec 2002 19:10, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
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>
>
> No, its an optional setting with default to "off" because the kmail
> programmers realized (back in KDE2.2.2) that not the MUA is responsible for
> the Message-ID but the first MTA. Why? Because
re in the kmail configuration for this? Is this a
serious issue? So far xpert is the only list tat complains, but it might
explain why I'm not getting replies to other questions I post elsewhere.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Cheers,
John Gay
lists Nov 18th as the decision date for the final release.
Since there are many KDE developers on this list, does anyone know which way
the decision is heading?
Cheers,
John Gay
On Mon 11 Nov 2002 14:23, David Pashley wrote:
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> On Monday 11 November 2002 2:00 pm, Giles Constant wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, John Gay wrote:
> > > I am getting ready to wipe my Debian Woody system and replace it
On Mon 11 Nov 2002 14:00, Giles Constant wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, John Gay wrote:
> > I am getting ready to wipe my Debian Woody system and replace it with a
> > self-compiled Linux including the latest bells-N-whistles I could find.
>
> If you want to compile your enti
rather than the 386 compiled Debian packages. Not to mention
the great learning experience for doing it myself.
Thank you all for your diligent work and expertise.
Cheers,
John Gay
om the official Debian site,
thank you.
Please do not allow this complex interaction of a number of problems shade
your view of KDE. It is not KDE alone that caused your experiences.
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John Gay
r computer. It's of no interest, UNTIL you have a problem, then
it's indespensable!
Hope this explains it purpose for you.
Cheers,
John Gay
On Fri 30 Aug 2002 18:50, Marc Aurele La France wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, John Gay wrote:
> > I'm copying both lists because this problem appears to be related to X.
> >
> > I'm building a Linux From Scratch box and I have XFree86 from cvs
> > working. A
me get around this? It seems to be only a small
problem that is stopping me from finishing the build of kde-base.
Thank you for any information or help with this problem.
Cheers,
John Gay
hoping someone might know why I'm getting this error?
>
> Here's mine:
>
> $ /pkg/qt/bin/moc -v
> Qt Meta Object Compiler version 19 (Qt 3.0.3)
>
I get:
Qt Meta Object Compiler version 19 (Qt 3.0.2-snapshot-20020126)
> This seems quite OT to me. Keep on posting, and working on it!
>
> Fred
I hope this info is helpful in identifying the problem I'm having.
Cheers,
John Gay
box works bar this.
Thanks again for any help and assistance and I now return you to your
regularly scheduled debian-based discussion.
Cheers,
John Gay
On Sun 11 Aug 2002 22:58, Frank Van Damme wrote:
> On Saturday 10 August 2002 15:37, Josep Febrer wrote:
> > A Divendres 09 Agost 2002 22:18, John Gay va escriure:
> > > choosing a window manager that
> > > didn't try to use excesive amounts of memory would
er version of GCC.
You would be looking at upto a week, on your hardware for nothing.
On the other hand, installing more memory and choosing a window manager that
didn't try to use excesive amounts of memory would yield much better results.
Cheers,
John Gay
On Fri 02 Aug 2002 19:46, Jens Benecke wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 04:44:48PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> > 3) Since the / partition is only 100M there is not enough room to put QT
> > and KDE3 into /opt, which is part of the / partition.
> > I've tried to deduce th
e cups available as
well. I'm also going to check out what else KDE can make use of so I don't
have to build it once again. The last time took over 48 hours just to compile
QT, but I've added a lot more memory now so things should go a little bit
quicker.
Thanks for all the help and info.
Cheers,
John Gay
instead. I am hoping
to build a PentiumMMX optimized system including XFree86-cvs and KDE3 jsut to
see how much performance I can squeeze.
So, put me donw as very interested in seeing KPovModeler supported in Debian
in the near future!
> Mark
>
Cheers,
John Gay
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'round the clock' there are many
object pre-linking optimizations that can be used with QT and KDE, though
they can be dodgy. They have been known to just not work on certain hardware,
so you might end up spending a week compiling something that will not even
run. YMMV.
Hope this expains
On Sat 27 Jul 2002 18:17, gerhard wrote:
> Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2002 18:01 schrieb gerhard:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm a debian 3.0 woody user and cannot install kpovmodeler.
> > I receive the following error from the configure-script:
> >
> > checking for KDE... configure: error:
> > in the prefix, y
d GCC3?
I've also looked into PGCC, but the latest patches they have are for
GCC2.95.3 and the site seems to be un-maintained.
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On Sat 27 Jul 2002 17:01, gerhard wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a debian 3.0 woody user and cannot install kpovmodeler.
> I receive the following error from the configure-script:
>
> checking for KDE... configure: error:
> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This
> will fail.
> S
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> On Tuesday 16 July 2002 06:15 am, John Gay wrote:
> > Well, it seems the consensus is about a week?!? Being out of work at the
> > moment, I've got nothing but
them from my mail box, so I risk loosing
many mails that way.
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is, O.K., if not, it just might be
the incentive I need to start packaging things for myself.
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seems that noteedit keeps filling up something in X until the box dies
completely. On an earlier run, After the desktop had died, kmail and konsole
were both killed in turn before X killed itself! Anyone else seen this type
of activity before?
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ow I am.
For those who know about such things, it might be a good idea to have a look
at:
http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian/
and see if you can offer any help in getting these ready for release! I'm
sure Chris would appreciate the assistance, and remember, with enough eyes,
all bugs are shallow. ESR
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ade this a bit more obvious. Thanks to everyone
for the help and information!
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Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 23. April 2002 15:36 schrieb John Gay:
>
>>kmail, kdevelop, kate and others no longer work. I just get crash
>>notices with little info. I'll start with the most important first.
>>
> [debug messages skipped]
>
>
strace is much more verbose, but I don't understand much of it. Maybe
some else can see where my system is screwed up?
Thanks for all the hard work! I know this is specific to my system, I'd
just like to know why and fix it.
Cheers,
John Gay
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> On Sunday 21 April 2002 16:59, John Gay wrote:
> > I.E. get a list of packages that depend on kdelibs3 and pass that
> > to apt-get or dpkg in some way?
>
> How d
are sadly out
of date now. Unfortunately, the kde meta-package can not be used for
updating, because this would require updating the meta-package every time
anything changed in kde.
Thanks, until then, I guess I'll just try upgrading bit by bit until I get it
right.
Cheers,
the great work!
Cheers,
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On Sat 06 Apr 2002 04:51, you wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 06:56:03PM +0100, John Gay wrote:
> > I realise this is more of a Kdevelop problem, but I know a few people
> > here use it so. . .
> >
> > After serveral problems, I've finally got my desktop mostly wor
his any more?
It used to work?
Let me know what other info is needed to find out why this isn't working any
more.
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On Thu 01 Jan 1970 00:59, wrote
> > I think with pay-per-minute Internet access, building from source would
> > be cheaper than fetching .deb's from the 'net. But, should I use debian
> > tools to build .deb's, or jsut build and install the packages to, say,
> > /usr/local/* to prevent corrupting
say, /usr/local/* to
prevent corrupting my installation?
Thanks for all the help and keep up the great work!
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t;Luxi Sans";
match any family == "Lucidux Sans" edit family += "Luxi
Sans";
match any family == "LuciduxMono" edit family += "Luxi Mono";
match any family == "Lucidux Mono" edit family += "Luxi
Mono";
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I can't attach the font because kmail crashes when I try to attach
something, but that's another story.
> Well, that should give you a good place to start, and if all that is
> fruitless, the info you dig up should give *me* a good place to start
>
I hope some of this is helpfull.
> :-)
>
> Have a wonderful night!
Cheers,
John Gay
On Sunday 10 March 2002 02:13, David Bishop wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 02:04:01AM +0000, John Gay wrote:
> > I realise this is NOT supported at all yet, but I did have it working,
> > before I nuked my system. Now I don't remember how I did it. Ivan had
> > creat
but where do I set this to be enabled from boot again?
On a similar topic, I made a new AA font for my daughter. Where do I install
this and set it up so X and KDE can find it?
Thanks for all the hard work and help.
Cheers,
John Gay
system
sounds like a great way to keep up-to-date!
I hope someone can point me in the right direction!
Before I forget, Great job Chris and everyone! I especially like Chris'
recent status update! Nice to see where we are heading! Keep up the great
work!
Cheers,
John Gay
ions and looks rather poor on a KDE desktop.
>
> Michael
>
> On Saturday 02 February 2002 at 10:20, Maximilian Reiss wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 2. Februar 2002 at 4:03 schrieb Chris Cheney:
> > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:04:36PM +, John Gay wrote:
> > > > I th
On Saturday 02 February 2002 10:20, Maximilian Reiss wrote:
> Am Samstag, 2. Februar 2002 04:03 schrieb Chris Cheney:
> > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:04:36PM +0000, John Gay wrote:
> > > I thought this was now an official part of kde multimedia? Who is
> > > building the
it a
shot. I'm not a programmer, per-se, but I would be interested in playing
around with building debs. I would just like to put my Hauppauge TV card to
proper use.
Cheers,
John Gay
On Tuesday 22 January 2002 00:44, John Gay wrote:
> I used to use konq to check my credit card balance. During the libpng
> fiasco, I didn't worry too much about it. I've now updated me system to the
> post-libpng version and was trying to access my account again, but when I
Now if I could
just sort out my flash problems :)
Cheers,
John Gay
; 16 days old.
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Seems a bit old, but the list of deps on the page also shows it's linked to
libpng3 rather than libpng2. Is the existing bug report enough, or should I
E-Mail him as well? It seems he's missed the entire libpng fiasco.
Cheers,
John Gay
built with libpng3 and should be
> fine as is.
>
So, hopefully after this most of my kde will be up-to-date!
BTW, who owns kstars? I updated it last night, and now I've got no icons on
it. This 'seems' the be the last kde app with the libpng problem, at least on
my system.
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John Gay
ht have missed, but I know that no
matter how I grep, I'll still be missing something.
Thanks to everyone for all their hard work in getting KDE back on track!
Cheers,
John Gay
every time kde changes would be a
major pain, but it might be an idea to update it when a major problem like
this occurs to make fixing these type of things easier.
Just a thought.
Thanks again for all the hard work!
Cheers,
John Gay
a-package been overlooked or have I missed
the point completely?
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John Gay
with pay-per-minute access, that is not a
cheap option.
Other than that, everyone is doing a great job recovering from the libpng
fiasco. Keep up the great work!
Cheers,
John Gay
great work!
Cheers,
John Gay
> > > LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libpng.so.2.1.0.12 startx
> >
> > Somebody want to tell the dumb guy where to put this line? :)
>
> uh, how about at a command prompt?
>
And for those who's kdm/gdm/xdm boot directly into X?
ion that will be in woody when it
freezes?
And KDE3, with libpng3 will go into unstable after that? Unless it's
another year or more before the freeze actually occurs.
Cheers,
John Gay
from here! At least we have something to look forward to and a time-frame to
watch as it flies by ; )
Cheers,
John Gay
"I love deadlines! I especially like the 'ZOOMing' sound they make as
thay fly by!"
Douglas N. Adams
is in good working
order again, I'll upgrade.
Thanks for picking up the pieces after Ivan had to drop kde. Several of us
were afraid we would have to wait through another version of Debian before
seeing kde in a stable branch.
Cheers,
John Gay
nally arrives in Ireland
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ges as well?
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John Gay
KDE in the past and
look forward to continuing to use in the future. I'm guessing the Ben will
still be working on koffice, and Norman will still be supporting kdevelop?
Seem's this is, indeed the case. I must go check the debian-devel archives
and see just what happened there.
Cheers,
John Gay
lified, but this is where we stand. I
can not see debian allowing Gnome to be dropped from debian, no matter how
much they would like to see KDE dropped.
>Max
>
>@Ivan, thanks for all the great work. Because of you Debian has the best
kde
>packages of all distributions!!
>
DITTO!
Cheers,
John Gay
I'm not the only
one who feels this way. Keep up the great work!
Cheers,
John Gay
ent in sorting out
dependancies and installing things in the correct order than dselect. The
only advantage I've seen with dselect is it will inform you of suggests and
recommends whereas apt-get just seems to ignore these.
I hope this gives you a bit more information for figuring out where your
problems are coming from.
Cheers,
John Gay
use 'users' easier due to their
work!
Cheers,
John Gay
best guess from the recent storm of mails on this
subject and I could be very wrong but for myself, I'm going to wait until
this sorts itself out before doing any more major upgrades.
I hope this answers your question.
Cheers,
John Gay
; Thanks to all the hard-working KDE developers and Debian packagers!
Is this confirmation that the icon problem is fixed, or just one lucky person?
Cheers,
John Gay
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