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your needs, use
something else or help make KDE 4 fit your needs.
KDE 3.5 is not dead. It has many active users and a few active
maintainers, such as Trinity.
You are free not to engage in discussions about rescuing KDE 3.5.
Please don't interfere with discussions about rescuing KDE 3.5.
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Now if you have nothing useful to say about KDE 3.5, please
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is KDE 4 true believers who are
trying to prevent people from using KDE 3.5.
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to migrate when Lenny is EOL'd.
If you'd like to fix KDE 4, it would be more productive to
work upstream. If you'd like to poll Debian users as to what
needs fixing in KDE 4, please start a new thread.
Meanwhile, please stop trolling this thread.
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, is of interest
to a substantial number of Debian users.
You are free to ignore this thread.
You are not free to disrupt this thread.
And please learn how not to CC people when replying to the list.
Why do KDE 4 acolytes keep doing that?
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Please don't lie. This list is for Discussions related to KDE in Debian.
Those developing KDE-based packages are encouraged to use this to discuss
issues and share their experience.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/
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focused forum
of debian-kde, to which I have cross-posted this message.
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will best serve my users when Lenny support ends.
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infrastructure.
Debian ships all sorts of software, including even
non-free software. Would it be possible to continue
rebuilding and shipping KDE 3.5, perhaps in contrib,
perhaps with a huge no security updates disclaimer?
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users and I pray that you keep KDE 3.5 (or Trinity) in Squeeze.
Even with perfect packaging KDE SC 4 is slow and unreliable,
gimmick-rich but feature-poor. KDE SC 4 probably has no future and
certainly has no place in Debian STABLE.
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gmane.
I have great respect for Ana's work but even Ana is using Mutt.
Have you ever actually tried converting normal office workers from
KDE 3.5 to KDE SC 4? I have. Twice. Utter failure.
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was fifty years out of date before the first line
of code was written. It's sole achievement is draining laptop batteries.
We've had more than two years of being told KDE SC 4 is good enough.
It is not.
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installing KDE cause a global /var/lib/mysql MySQL server to run on
each workstation, even when nobody is logged in?
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On Thu May 6 2010 17:08:48 Diederik de Haas wrote:
On 2010-05-07 Mike Bird wrote:
Does installing KDE cause a global /var/lib/mysql MySQL server to run on
each workstation, even when nobody is logged in?
Not anymore, but it used to be that case.
Since http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin
is rushing to remove it.
(3) Does Debian really want to implement robust migration both
to MySQL (for Squeeze) and then out of MySQL (for Squeeze+1)?
--Mike Bird
P.S. Any chance that Squeeze will support Trinity?
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. Eventually I expect we'll run
into video driver problems on new hardware but thus far we've been OK
with Lenny.
Thanks to the Debian KDE team for keeping KDE 3.5 in Lenny. KDE 3.5
may or may not ever see another bug fix, but it will be a long long
time before KDE 4 catches up with KDE 3.5.
--Mike Bird
in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap/ (most of which are dot files).
Since Evolution's downgrade, KMail is the only client I know of
that works well with hundreds of mail folders. And for that I
choose to live with software that explodes whenever the network
times out.
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of people experience KMail crashes is more
significant than the fact that a lot of people do not, even if
the latter were to constitute a happy majority.
KMail crashes seem to correlate (albeit not perfectly) with poor
or heavily loaded network connections.
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screaming. There's no way I can force that
on my users.
An ENORMOUS thank you to the KDE team for leaving KDE 3.5 in Lenny.
I hope they have a fall-back plan to deliver KDE 3.5 in Squeeze,
because KDE 4 is going nowhere fast.
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On Wed September 24 2008 04:48:36 Alejandro Exojo wrote:
El Martes, 23 de Septiembre de 2008, Mike Bird escribió:
See below for my Lenny KDE packages. What differences do you see
between this and the systems where you tested ktorrent 3 with Lenny's
KDE 3? Is it possible that ktorrent 3
On Wed September 24 2008 10:18:21 Michael Biebl wrote:
I can only suggest what others have already said, that you'll probably
have a misconfigured system.
Please post your dpkg -l | grep kde.
Thanks,
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Found and removed some old KDE4-related garbage in /usr/local.
My fault, not Debian.
Many thanks to everyone who answered my dumb questions.
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On Tue September 23 2008 08:22:38 Modestas Vainius wrote:
antradienis 23 Rugsėjis 2008, Mike Bird rašė:
My ktorrent / Settings / Configure ktorrent / Plugins list is empty.
How about yours?
Neither starting ktorrent nor accessing the plugins list causes the
plugins to be accessed
On Tue September 23 2008 09:01:13 Modestas Vainius wrote:
Hi,
antradienis 23 Rugsėjis 2008, Mike Bird rašė:
No stdout output. See below for stderr output. Does not alter
access time (neither ls -udl nor ls -ul) of /usr/lib/kde4.
Does not cause ktorrent 3 plugins to appear
for comparison with mine.
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this piece of KDE 4
is being pushed prematurely. Most users will simply have to
downgrade to ktorrent2.2. Why not release ktorrent version 2.2
in Lenny and maybe have a ktorrent3 package for anyone that wants
to play on the bleeding edge?
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On Tue August 26 2008 23:56:00 Ana Guerrero wrote:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:19:02PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
I just tried the KDE4 ktorrent 3 which is being pushed for Lenny.
It was a huge disappointment. It brings in a lot of KDE 4 libs
which are otherwise not needed and it has maybe 10
-upgrade also wants
to remove kdebase-bin-kde3 which makes me a little nervous.
Logs follow. Please ignore references to context upgrade.
TIA,
--Mike Bird
# apt-get --dry-run upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages
, both up to 3.5.5a-1. I have installed gksu as a
work-around. Likewise, all root password entries in Konsole work. This
affects all five machines running Debian Etch in this house.
confirmed
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