Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-22 Thread Julian
On 21/04/13 00:04, Modestas Vainius wrote: There is a way to do this - backports. It is an official service as of wheezy. However, I see the main problem here - noone is interested in actually doing the necessary work and invest their days/weeks of time to make it reality. Debian

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-20 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On Friday 19 April 2013 13:48:04 Julian wrote: Its a high level application that runs on, what rightly should be, a well tested lower (dependency) levels of a stable core (debian base). So it has a lot to be thankful for when it comes to stability *out of the box* or are you saying

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-18 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2013 m. of April 18 d., Thursday 04:04:01 Julian wrote: release cycle rigmarole even if obsolete by the time it comes out of freeze and is burned to 100's of blurays...no one wants 4.8 anymore. You know there are many people who do not care (or does not know) about version at all.

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-18 Thread Edward J. Shornock
* Modestas Vainius mo...@debian.org [18-04-2013 15:34 EEST]: On 2013 m. of April 18 d., Thursday 04:04:01 Julian wrote: release cycle rigmarole even if obsolete by the time it comes out of freeze and is burned to 100's of blurays...no one wants 4.8 anymore. People desperate for 4.10 are

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-18 Thread Julian
On 18/04/13 22:32, Modestas Vainius wrote: Hello, On 2013 m. of April 18 d., Thursday 04:04:01 Julian wrote: release cycle rigmarole even if obsolete by the time it comes out of freeze and is burned to 100's of blurays...no one wants 4.8 anymore. You know there are many people who do not

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-17 Thread Markus Raab
Hello! Julian wrote: Having a stable and tested operating system and its core packages is important and packages end up in stable that have gone through the rigmarole. I fully agree! Rolling releases of individual packages are everywhere (downloadable .deb packages or little source repos),

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-17 Thread Julian
On 18/04/13 02:46, Markus Raab wrote: Hello! Julian wrote: Having a stable and tested operating system and its core packages is important and packages end up in stable that have gone through the rigmarole. I fully agree! Rolling releases of individual packages are everywhere

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-17 Thread Diane Trout
People desperate for 4.10 are installing experimental, which is crazy, experimental is the crucible of package pain and will always be that way, but it is unnecessary for alot of applications out there, including KDE. I'd rather test application bugs than package dependency bugs in

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-13 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-07, Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk wrote: Feel free to contact me privately. But note that that you need to have a good personal backup strategy. Based on various feedback from the nice volunteers including Diane, Andreas, Martin, Marco, Edward and Michael, the package is now in

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-13 Thread Libor Klepáč
Hi you are right, it's not upgrade from or to version in official debian, i forgot that. Just wanted to help with possible conflict, i didn't realise, that it won't affect users, who use official packages Libor *On Friday 12 April 2013 14:48:17 Sune Vuorela wrote:* * On 2013-04-12, Libor

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-12 Thread Libor Klepáč
Hello, I have build kdepim 4.10.2 packages from git, everything looks fine (i was building previous version of kdepim from git too, so no migration here) there is one conflict, it shows during upgrade -- Preparing to replace kleopatra 4:4.8.3-0r0 (using .../kleopatra_4.10.2-0r4_amd64.deb)

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-12, Libor Klepáč libor.kle...@bcom.cz wrote: Hi Preparing to replace kleopatra 4:4.8.3-0r0 (using This is not a version we have been providing, so upgrading from it is on your own. .../kleopatra_4.10.2-0r4_amd64.deb) ... This is also not a package we have been providin so

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-12 Thread Edward J. Shornock
* Libor Klepáč libor.kle...@bcom.cz [12-04-2013 16:58 EEST]: Hello, I have build kdepim 4.10.2 packages from git, everything looks fine (i was building previous version of kdepim from git too, so no migration here) there is one conflict, it shows during upgrade -- Preparing to replace

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-08 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-06, Diederik de Haas didi.deb...@cknow.org wrote: Sune said: the 'normal' experimental is where the action happens, but it happens currently dripwise and not as a big chunk, as it makes stuff easier for the developers. It includes prepearation for the modern kdepim. Is that the

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Friday 05 April 2013 schrieb Sune Vuorela: Actual upgrade issues, like file overlaps and such - you are most welcome to report those. But remember your backup. Hmm...I am hesitant to open a bug report here, because that seems so obvious that I am almost sure that I miss something. Does

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On Friday 05 April 2013 08:42:54 Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2013-04-05, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: What was the reason for qt-kde.debian.net then? From the page: Some people thinks experimental is hard. Other people dislike doing the copyright-documentation that is

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Saturday April 06, 2013 12:07:57 Modestas Vainius wrote: Hello, On Friday 05 April 2013 08:42:54 Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2013-04-05, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: What was the reason for qt-kde.debian.net then? From the page: Some people thinks experimental is hard.

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On Saturday 06 April 2013 12:51:13 Beojan Stanislaus wrote: I wish there was some Continuous integration for KDE packaging which took the load of: * Package building and dependency management. * Package uploading to development repository for testing. * Automatted Lintian

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Diederik de Haas
Sune said: the 'normal' experimental is where the action happens, but it happens currently dripwise and not as a big chunk, as it makes stuff easier for the developers. It includes prepearation for the modern kdepim. Is that the reason that if I want to do a full-upgrade, the 'solution' to the

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Julian
On 07/04/13 06:54, Diederik de Haas wrote: Sune said: the 'normal' experimental is where the action happens, but it happens currently dripwise and not as a big chunk, as it makes stuff easier for the developers. It includes prepearation for the modern kdepim. Is that the reason that if I

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-05 Thread Julian
On 04/04/13 21:54, David Baron wrote: I agree. I have two (count 'em) experimental snapshot sets of KDE, the KDE4.9 on qt-kde.debian.net/debian and now the 4.10 on packages.siduction.org/kdenext. This is certainly not desirable and probably, the 4.10 shouild be copied or moved to the

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-05, Julian temp...@internode.on.net wrote: Were the servers down at qt-kde.debian.net? Sorry I'm just confused as to why 4.10 isn't there? pushing things to qt-kde.debian.net is quite some extra work for everybody, for example it is not hooked up to debian autobuilder infrastructure,

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
mailing list. I continue looking forward to KDE SC 4.10 for Debian via official means. Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-05, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: What was the reason for qt-kde.debian.net then? From the page: Some people thinks experimental is hard. Other people dislike doing the copyright-documentation that is required for the official archive. And qt-kde.d.n also could allow

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread Diederik de Haas
The upgrade fails on my system, each time with kde-runtime-data. Details: # aptitude safe-upgrade Resolving dependencies... The following packages will be upgraded: kde-runtime-data The following partially installed packages will be configured: dolphin kate kde-baseapps

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Thursday 04 April 2013 08:21:39 Diederik de Haas wrote: The upgrade fails on my system, each time with kde-runtime-data. Please disregard my previous msg, since I was upgrading from the 'normal' experimental. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread David Baron
On Thursday, 04 April, 2013 02:08:00 AM José Manuel Santamaría Lema wrote: David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il Up and running, quite nicely My wife's desktop came up, no problem. Mine crashed plasma-desktop. Had to start over, new .kde. Found problem was actually the yaWP weather

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-04, Diederik de Haas didi.deb...@cknow.org wrote: On Thursday 04 April 2013 08:21:39 Diederik de Haas wrote: The upgrade fails on my system, each time with kde-runtime-data. Please disregard my previous msg, since I was upgrading from the 'normal' experimental. the 'normal'

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread David Baron
On Thursday, 04 April, 2013 09:32:04 AM David Baron wrote: On Thursday, 04 April, 2013 02:08:00 AM José Manuel Santamaría Lema wrote: David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il Up and running, quite nicely My wife's desktop came up, no problem. Mine crashed plasma-desktop. Had to start

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-04, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: All siduction pakages upgraded today, saw -dev packages there as well. Please take siduction support off this list. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 2. April 2013 schrieb José Manuel Santamaría Lema: Hello Marin, Hi José, Hi! I have browsed some basic packages at git.debian.org and it seems José and others work on KDE SC 4.10. Are any of these already in a testable state? I may be inclined to build some during

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread David Baron
On Thursday, 04 April, 2013 01:44:08 PM Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Dienstag, 2. April 2013 schrieb José Manuel Santamaría Lema: Hello Marin, Hi José, Hi! I have browsed some basic packages at git.debian.org and it seems José and others work on KDE SC 4.10. Are any

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-03 Thread David Baron
Up and running, quite nicely My wife's desktop came up, no problem. Mine crashed plasma-desktop. Had to start over, new .kde. Found problem was actually the yaWP weather plasmoid. When I put that back, crashed, so had to do some surgery on plasma-desktop-appletrc to get rid of it. -- To

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-03 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il Up and running, quite nicely My wife's desktop came up, no problem. Mine crashed plasma-desktop. Had to start over, new .kde. Found problem was actually the yaWP weather plasmoid. When I put that back, crashed, so had to do some surgery on

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-03 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
José Manuel Santamaría Lema panfa...@gmail.com rebuilt against 4.8 ugh, I meant rebuilt against KDE workspaces 4.10. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-01 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
Hello Marin, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de Hi! I have browsed some basic packages at git.debian.org and it seems José and others work on KDE SC 4.10. Are any of these already in a testable state? I may be inclined to build some during the free week after the coming week

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-01 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
José Manuel Santamaría Lema panfa...@gmail.com deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext experimental-snapshots Oops, I actually meant: deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext experimental-snapshots main -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

KDE SC 4.10

2013-03-17 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! I have browsed some basic packages at git.debian.org and it seems José and others work on KDE SC 4.10. Are any of these already in a testable state? I may be inclined to build some during the free week after the coming week. Anyway, keep up the good work. Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios