Entirely agree about plasma being a source of some pretty nasty crashes - I tend to not fiddle with it much now - I've got weather, two cartoons, and the world time map going, and they all seem to be rock stable.
I like your / ubuntu's idea of not providing things known to be a 'bit dodgy', but OTOH Debian's all about providing stuff so that users can decide what they want to run - it's a tough call, as the Debian maintainers are going to cop grief with whichever path they follow there. I think there's also lots of nasty things going on with xorg at the moment, and presumably the various chipset drivers. On my laptop - an intel driver - one of the window management options - I think flip-switch - causes kwin to die silently. All the other, seemingly comparably CPU-stressing task-switching options are fine. On my desktop (beefy quad core) I'm finding re-sizing konsoles that are close to full-screen height causes a 2-3 second delay. Moving them is just fine. Half-screen sized or smaller konsoles seems fine too. This is an especially weird thing - X freezes, so hard to check with sysguard or top/konsole to see exactly what's happening. It may be related to my proprietary nVidia drivers .. but this seems unlikely given it seems to only affect konsoles. But .. yeah .. the number of crashes you're having reminds me of my early time, around April, when 4.2.2, along with some major xorg upgrades, first entered unstable. Apart from konqueror(html) windows occasionally just dying - also silently (which is *very* disturbing) and the occasional complete lock up (again, this might be X more than K) - I'm finding 4.3 a big improvement. Not back to 3.5.9 levels of stability, but getting there. cheers, Jedd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org