Re: Pulseaudio and its Daemons

2009-08-24 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2009-08-22, David Baron wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 13:16:48 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Thursday, 2009-08-20, David Baron wrote: KDE 4.3 comes up with pulseaudio whether I want it or not. If I were to use it, I need to start it with options other than the default used, I

Re: Pulseaudio and its Daemons

2009-08-24 Thread David Baron
On Monday 24 August 2009 13:48:41 Kevin Krammer wrote: KDE will not start if I have killed them. Runs fine without them until Ilog out. Hmm, interesting. Didn't know there was a dependency on the system bus. Since these were there before 4.3 and other recent Sid upgrades, they in

Re: Pulseaudio and its Daemons

2009-08-24 Thread David Baron
On Monday, 2009-08-24, David Baron wrote: On Monday 24 August 2009 13:48:41 Kevin Krammer wrote: KDE will not start if I have killed them. Runs fine without them until Ilog out. Once Xorg has started, I would assume it has its devices set unless dbus reports, from udev, something

Re: Pulseaudio and its Daemons

2009-08-24 Thread David Baron
All idling until used. That is the problem: plasma-desktop 30% dbus-daemon 17% hald 10% Xorg 8% IF I assume MY plasma-desktop is the offender -- what is doing it? Krunner is not in this list. Plasmoids? Menus--nah. my phoneapplet which runs an xringd-type thread? No code calling hal or dbus

Re: Pulseaudio and its Daemons

2009-08-24 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Monday, 2009-08-24, David Baron wrote: Newer device-notifyer (a candidate, huh? but should be sitting on udev, not hal and dbus.) Guess what. Taking this off solves it!!! SInce this baby is under kdereview as a replacement for the supplied widget, I think I have found something! Maybe it

Re: Pulseaudio and its Daemons

2009-08-22 Thread David Baron
On Friday 21 August 2009 13:16:48 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Thursday, 2009-08-20, David Baron wrote: KDE 4.3 comes up with pulseaudio whether I want it or not. If I were to use it, I need to start it with options other than the default used, I sincerely believe. Which package did you

Re: Pulseaudio and its Daemons

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Thursday, 2009-08-20, David Baron wrote: KDE 4.3 comes up with pulseaudio whether I want it or not. If I were to use it, I need to start it with options other than the default used, I sincerely believe. Which package did you install that depends on Pulseaudio? Can't you just remove it if

Pulseaudio and its Daemons

2009-08-20 Thread David Baron
KDE 4.3 comes up with pulseaudio whether I want it or not. If I were to use it, I need to start it with options other than the default used, I sincerely believe. Problem is that, as I have stated, an instance of hald and dbus, owned by haldaemon and messageboxd.., are started with it. These