Re: 178 days and counting

2002-10-01 Thread Ed Cogburn
Ben Burton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your post was both offensive and discriminatory (yes I know some gay people, and I find anti gay comments vulgar and unneccessary). Hmm? How was Russell's post offensive, discriminatory or anti-gay? He was mistaken about your sexu

re: kde 3 (formerly re: 178 days and counting)

2002-10-01 Thread David Pastern
Hi everyone, Good news. With a *HUGE* effort from Thomas Schoepf I have finally managed to get kde 3.0.3 onto my PC. Thank you very much Thomas for your time, effort, patience and advice. Very much appreciated. I don't know why I had so much troubles getting it all to work, I rebuilt my debian

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:46, David Pashley wrote: > On Monday 30 September 2002 8:00 pm, Fred K Ollinger wrote: > [snip] > > I would like to point out we use a mailing list for a reason. Please stop > CCing everyone who so much as touchs a thread. Do you think that you are setting an example of how

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-30 Thread David Pashley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 30 September 2002 8:00 pm, Fred K Ollinger wrote: [snip] I would like to point out we use a mailing list for a reason. Please stop CCing everyone who so much as touchs a thread. - -- David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nihil curo de ista tua

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:24, Fred K Ollinger wrote: > I think that this was a lib problem that smart people fixed by downgrading > in a rescue environment. I strongly recommend installing busybox-static. init=/bin/busybox will let you solve many problems. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-30 Thread Fred K Ollinger
> Also it should be noted that Debian/unstable is actually remarkably stable for > the working tree of a large software development project. In terms of the True. I do consider this a good thing. Most people will probably be OK if they don't wear seatbelts, but that doesn't make driving w/o one a

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-30 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:03, Fred K Ollinger wrote: > > The problem is that developers (I mean Debian Developers mostly) > > actually use unstable for their work. Having unstable packages to work > > with is ok for most packages, but when core things like XFree, gnome, > > kde ... are *really* unstab

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-30 Thread Fred K Ollinger
> The problem is that developers (I mean Debian Developers mostly) > actually use unstable for their work. Having unstable packages to work > with is ok for most packages, but when core things like XFree, gnome, > kde ... are *really* unstable in unstable, people will get annoyed. Then they have t

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-30 Thread Fred K Ollinger
> mmm well...i shouldn't say this, but i'm going to say this...after an > endless nightmare of trying to get woody stable to upgrade kde 2.2 to kde 3 > I give up. I've never used kde before (being a gnome man up until now) - I Sorry. > wanted to try kde and give it a fair go, but sorry. After a

kdelibs3 or kdelibs4? (was: Re: 178 days and counting)

2002-09-30 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 30 September 2002 02:32, David Pastern wrote: > maxus:/home/maxus# apt-get dist-upgrade > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Calculating Upgrade... Done > The following packages will be REMOVED: > kab kde kd

pinning kde3 from kde.org (was: Re: 178 days and counting)

2002-09-30 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 30 September 2002 03:28, Derek Gladding wrote: > > /etc/apt/sources.list: > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib > non-free deb http://ht

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-30 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
måndagen den 30 september 2002 10.41 skrev David Pashley: > http://people.debian.org/~willy/c++transition.html When the non-beta version of KDE3 is ready with GCC3, you just put a conflict with the beta version and everything is replaced with the new version. It does not look like a problem. Or

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-30 Thread David Pashley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 29 September 2002 12:40 pm, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > söndagen den 29 september 2002 11.59 skrev David Pashley: > > The current plan intents to append a c to the package name for 3.2 > > compiled packages. This can then go when the soname i

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread Derek Gladding
On Sunday 29 September 2002 07:17 pm, David Pastern wrote: > Interestingly reading this post on this online forum: > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/27477 > > The first persons response to the post in question is named Mara. He/she > says; > > "Try to choose a different server f

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread David Pastern
#x27;m not sure if this is the case or not in my situation. Any light? Dave -Original Message- From: David Pastern To: Malcolm Hunter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 30/09/2002 12:05 Subject: RE: 178 days and counting Malcolm, I would prefer not

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread Ben Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Your post was both offensive and > discriminatory (yes I know some gay people, and I find anti gay comments > vulgar and unneccessary). Hmm? How was Russell's post offensive, discriminatory or anti-gay? He was mistaken about your sexual orientat

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread David Pastern
ust very tired, very angry and very frustrated and wanting some help to get it all running. Dave -----Original Message- From: Malcolm Hunter To: David Pastern Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 30/09/2002 11:40 Subject: Re: 178 days and counting David, Install Red Hat, Mandrake or SuSE - i

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread Malcolm Hunter
t; and I can provide the said cdrom and let it read it and do its work. After > my previous troubles i'm just very nervous and hesitant and untrusting of > it all. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: David Pastern > To: Thomas Schoepf; [EMAIL P

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread David Pastern
kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 30/09/2002 11:17 Subject: RE: 178 days and counting Ignore post - I just tried removing the stable main and it's working now. Dave -Original Message- From: David Pastern To: Thomas Schoepf; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.o

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread David Pastern
Ignore post - I just tried removing the stable main and it's working now. Dave -Original Message- From: David Pastern To: Thomas Schoepf; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 30/09/2002 11:14 Subject: RE: 178 days and counting mm well as

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread David Pastern
ople.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ main and that didn't work either. -Original Message- From: Thomas Schoepf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 27/09/2002 5:38 Subject: Re: 178 days and counting On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 01:36:16PM -04

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread David Pastern
I lost my cool and vented my anger and frustration on you, and I shouldn't have. My apologies to those that I did offend (yes i've cooled down now). Dave -Original Message- From: David Pastern To: Russell Coker; David Pastern Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 30/09/2002 9

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread David Pastern
ooo nasty - go fuck yourself -Original Message- From: Russell Coker To: David Pastern Cc: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 29/09/2002 19:18 Subject: Re: 178 days and counting On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 01:34, David Pastern wrote: > eh? Thanks, but no thanks. I'm running on a

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
söndagen den 29 september 2002 11.59 skrev David Pashley: > The current plan intents to append a c to the package name for 3.2 compiled > packages. This can then go when the soname is upped. So if we put KDE in > now, we are stuck with kdelibs4c until kde4 is released. How will you do with incomp

KDE troll (was: Re: 178 days and counting)

2002-09-29 Thread Jarno Elonen
> Many people have 10 or more years IT experience where it's just the same > year repeated many times, I fear that your husband(*) might be one of them. Please don't insult any sexual minorities by comparing them to mr. Troll. There are quite a few non-hetero Linux and KDE hackers, FYI. - Jarno

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread David Pashley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 27 September 2002 7:01 pm, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Am Freitag, 27. September 2002 19:36 schrieb > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > woody/unstable (libc3.x maybe? I don't remember.) that were > > dependencies. > > Because you wrote that often enough

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-29 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 01:34, David Pastern wrote: > eh? Thanks, but no thanks. I'm running on a Class C internal network > where I live, with a direct backend into the ms exchange server (yes the > gentleman where I live runs his own ISP, Microsoft based without a single > touch of linux as he thi

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Derek Gladding
On Saturday 28 September 2002 04:34 pm, David Pastern wrote: > eh? Thanks, but no thanks. I'm running on a Class C internal network > where I live, with a direct backend into the ms exchange server (yes the > gentleman where I live runs his own ISP, Microsoft based without a single > touch of li

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread topside
7;ll try to help you get set up. Otherwise stop flaming the list please, it gets you nowhere and wastes our time. Regards, Dustin Melancon [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Dan Slatford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 7:35 PM Subject:

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Dan Slatford
Thomas Schoepf wrote: Let me summarize: 1. you put the wrong line into sources.list 2. 8 hours of trial & error but you couldn't figure that out 3. you blame it all on kde 4. although you said that you "want nothing to do with kde" you keep posting on debian-kde 5. you were pointed to the correc

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Volker Schlecht
> An average peace of butter would be sensible enough to unsubscribe. Make that "piece". -- The days just prior to marriage are like a snappy introduction to a tedious book.

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Volker Schlecht
> eh? Thanks, but no thanks. I'm running on a Class C internal network > where I live, with a direct backend into the ms exchange server (yes the > gentleman where I live runs his own ISP, Microsoft based without a single > touch of linux as he thinks it's a pile of shit and a fad - oh and he do

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 29 September 2002 00:26, David Pastern wrote: > ahhh a smart ass eh? wtf is debian-kde@lists.debian.org then? Santa > claus? I'm sure IQs are dropping... [snip] > *you betchya i'm totally *ucking pissed off* > > BTW I have totally removed

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Kurt Lieber
David Pastern said: > I'm beyond caring now. That's OK, so are we... --kurt

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 09:26:02AM +1000, David Pastern wrote: > ahhh a smart ass eh? wtf is debian-kde@lists.debian.org then? Santa claus? > I'm sure IQs are dropping... Let me summarize: 1. you put the wrong line into sources.list 2. 8 hours of trial & error but you couldn't figure that out 3

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread David Pastern
Hendrik Sattler To: David Pastern Sent: 28/09/2002 0:26 Subject: Re: 178 days and counting -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 28. September 2002 14:32 schrieb David Pastern: [...] I know this is not your fault but your current mailer (Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread David Pastern
debian-kde@lists.debian.org; David Pastern Sent: 28/09/2002 3:50 Subject: Re: 178 days and counting On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:24:41 +1000 David Pastern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't want nothing to do > with kde. So it's the wrong list. Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Alain Tesio
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:24:41 +1000 David Pastern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't want nothing to do > with kde. So it's the wrong list. Alain

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Tim Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > [ On Saturday 28 September 2002 08:35 am, John Gay wrote: ] > [...] The current versions of KDE3 are 'unstable' and the > various versions are compiled against a variety of mixed > stable/testing/unstable systems. [...] shouldn't we call th

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread John Gay
On Sat 28 Sep 2002 13:24, David Pastern wrote: > thanks (i'm sure i'm going to get flamed for this but I don't care one > iota).   I'm sorry your experience with KDE was not optimal, but blaming KDE alone is an incorrect assumption. The problems you've encountered are due to a large number of in

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Rafael Alexandre Schmitt
Em Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:32:46 +1000 David Pastern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: [ cut ] > debian, it's fantastic. I'm also happy with dselect and apt. It's kde. no , it's you. I have kde 3 runnig on my testing box and it works just fine. -- Home Page -> http://sites.uol.com.br/rafaelsch/ [E

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 20:01, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > BTW: I don't understand why most unstable packages are not in unstable > anymore. KDE3.x ist left out because of gcc3.2, although it does not make > much sense: if it breaks on transistion to gcc3.2- well, it's unstable. Same > with XFree4.2

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 19:58, scooter wrote: > what happens on a Debian system when you compile from source? I have run in > succession 3.0 alpha, 3.0beta, 3.1 alpha and now 3.1beta (or for you purests > 3.0.7) All built from tarballs on the dread RH. I have never had the > slightest difficulty

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 September 2002 13:32, David Pastern wrote: > further to my last email: for those that will bitch about it - this is how > I setup my /etc/apt/sources.list config file: [snip] > deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody/ testing

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread David Pastern
Dave -Original Message- From: David Pastern To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Knigge; David Pastern Cc: David Pashley; debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 28/09/2002 22:24 Subject: RE: 178 days and counting mmm well...i shouldn't say this, but i'm going to say this...after an end

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-28 Thread David Pastern
astern Cc: David Pashley; debian-kde@lists.debian.org Sent: 27/09/2002 3:36 Subject: Re: 178 days and counting Michael Knigge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I've now reinstalled woody/stable and have only stable in > sources.list. I'd >> love to install kde3.x if s

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Simon Hepburn
Simon Hepburn wrote: > As for the line wrap it's set to 78, always has been. Looks like a bug in > kmail when moving mails to or from the drafts folder. I'll try and > reproduce it. Anyone else seen anything similar ? Nothing on the kde bug > page. Reproduced and reported as #48392 -- Simon Hepb

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Simon Hepburn
Brad Felmey wrote: > Simon, don't even pretend you understand what I was getting at. It's > painfully obvious you don't. Given that your posts consisted of: >Since KDE 3.0 was released, and still nothing in sid. and >I'd rather just bitch about it, thanks. ... what is it that we are supposed

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 01:36:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ > It appears to be what I want. That looks like what I did, though, and there > were still libraries that were required and only available from woody/unstable Use the deb so

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Wim Stubbe
On Friday 27 September 2002 21:02, Brad Felmey wrote: > On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 13:14, Simon Hepburn wrote: > > Brad Felmey wrote: > > > I'd rather just bitch about it, thanks. > > > > That's odd I'm running sid and kde3.0.3. How did that happen ? > > Guess I must have pasted one of those pesky a

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Brad Felmey
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 13:14, Simon Hepburn wrote: > Brad Felmey wrote: > > > I'd rather just bitch about it, thanks. > > That's odd I'm running sid and kde3.0.3. How did that happen ? > Guess I must have pasted one of those pesky apt-lines for ftp.kde.org > that people keep littering this li

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread csj
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:25:40 -0500 Brad Felmey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 11:14, David Pashley wrote: > > > Well you could join #debian-kde on irc.freenode.org, check out KDE > > from CVS and fix problems. Whie you're at it you could sort out a > > correct transition t

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Simon Hepburn
Brad Felmey wrote: > I'd rather just bitch about it, thanks. That's odd I'm running sid and kde3.0.3. How did that happen ? Guess I must have pasted one of those pesky apt-lines for ftp.kde.org that people keep littering this list with, into my sources.list. Mind you that's an awful lot of

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Derrell . Lipman
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Freitag, 27. September 2002 19:36 schrieb > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> woody/unstable (libc3.x maybe? I don't remember.) that were dependencies. > > Because you wrote that often enought now: > "woody" is not "unstable" or "testing" but the current "

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Dan Boresjo
ROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 7:33 PM > To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: 178 days and counting > > On Friday 27 September 2002 18:25, Brad Felmey wrote: > > On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 11:14, David Pashley wrote: > > > Well you could join #debian-

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 27. September 2002 19:36 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > woody/unstable (libc3.x maybe? I don't remember.) that were dependencies. Because you wrote that often enought now: "woody" is not "unstable" or "testing" but the current "stable",

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread scooter
what happens on a Debian system when you compile from source? I have run in succession 3.0 alpha, 3.0beta, 3.1 alpha and now 3.1beta (or for you purests 3.0.7) All built from tarballs on the dread RH. I have never had the slightest difficulty with KDE on RH unless it was something of my own doi

RE: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Albert Heijn
n-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 178 days and counting On Friday 27 September 2002 18:25, Brad Felmey wrote: > On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 11:14, David Pashley wrote: > > Well you could join #debian-kde on irc.freenode.org, check out KDE from > > CVS and fix problems. Whie you're a

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Derrell . Lipman
Michael Knigge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I've now reinstalled woody/stable and have only stable in > sources.list. I'd >> love to install kde3.x if someone can point me to a .deb that will > install it >> on standard woody/stable. Anyone? > > > deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/w

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Bastiaan Naber
On Friday 27 September 2002 18:25, Brad Felmey wrote: > On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 11:14, David Pashley wrote: > > Well you could join #debian-kde on irc.freenode.org, check out KDE from > > CVS and fix problems. Whie you're at it you could sort out a correct > > transition to GCC 3.2 in sid without bre

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Michael Knigge
> I've now reinstalled woody/stable and have only stable in sources.list. I'd > love to install kde3.x if someone can point me to a .deb that will install it > on standard woody/stable. Anyone? deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ apt-get update apt-get install kdebase apt-get

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Quenten Griffith
I haven't tired it but there was some discussion on the list a few weeks ago and someone made kde3 for woody deb http://people.debian.org/~schoepf/kde3/woody ./ I am running kde3 on testing though with no real troubles to speak of. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Pashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Derrell . Lipman
David Pashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday 27 September 2002 2:48 pm, Brad Felmey wrote: >> Since KDE 3.0 was released, and still nothing in sid. > > Well you could join #debian-kde on irc.freenode.org, check out KDE from CVS > and fix problems. Whie you're at it you could sort out a c

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread Brad Felmey
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 11:14, David Pashley wrote: > Well you could join #debian-kde on irc.freenode.org, check out KDE from CVS > and fix problems. Whie you're at it you could sort out a correct transition > to GCC 3.2 in sid without breaking updates including from woody, or you could > just bi

Re: 178 days and counting

2002-09-27 Thread David Pashley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 27 September 2002 2:48 pm, Brad Felmey wrote: > Since KDE 3.0 was released, and still nothing in sid. > -- > Brad Felmey Well you could join #debian-kde on irc.freenode.org, check out KDE from CVS and fix problems. Whie you're at it you cou