On Mon, 2005-21-02 at 11:41 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote:
> On Monday 21 February 2005 10:44, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
> > - Well I am not 100% sure, but I feel like I remember that after selecting
> > kdelibs and kdebase, also selecting arts will not install any further
> > packages, bes
Derek Broughton wrote:
> I've been using kpackage as long as it's existed, and it's never been
> that. If the packages it's using are debs, it's _strictly_ a front end for
> apt-get.
Sorry, I did not write it clearly -- what I meant is that KPackage (IMHO,
correct me if I am wrong) does not unders
On Monday 21 February 2005 18:50, Derek Broughton wrote:
> I've been using kpackage as long as it's existed, and it's never been that.
> If the packages it's using are debs, it's _strictly_ a front end for
> apt-get. If the packages are rpms, it's a front end for rpm (?? not sure
> about that - _n
On Monday 21 February 2005 14:18, Theo Schmidt wrote:
> Am Montag 21 Februar 2005 18:14 schrieb Matej Cepl:
> ...
> > considering kpackage -- yeah, I would love to have some kind of
> > kAptitude,
> ...
>
> I am thoroughly happy with Synaptic, even though it doesn't solve the
> meta-package problem
Am Montag 21 Februar 2005 18:14 schrieb Matej Cepl:
...
> considering kpackage -- yeah, I would love to have some kind of kAptitude,
...
I am thoroughly happy with Synaptic, even though it doesn't solve the
meta-package problem either. At least it prominently tells you before
removing all of KDE
On Monday 21 February 2005 13:14, Matej Cepl wrote:
> considering kpackage -- yeah, I would love to have some kind of kAptitude,
> but IMHO (and I haven't tested for couple of years) kpackage is just a
> general tool which doesn't make difference (and does not take into
> consideration) between rp
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 01:18:51PM -0400, Derek Broughton wrote:
> It's a really hard sell to convince people to move to something like
> aptitude when what they've got isn't broken...
aptitude does have a command-line interface too, very like apt-get
and apt-cache. Sadly, it still has the infe
On Mon, 2005-21-02 at 17:26 +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Montag, 21. Februar 2005 17:03 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> >
> > I would think so. I can't see it being a big bonus that I have to go to a
> > (quite unintuitive) curses based interface instead of using the
> > command-line (apt-get) or
Derek Broughton wrote:
> I would think so. I can't see it being a big bonus that I have to go to a
> (quite unintuitive) curses based interface instead of using the
> command-line (apt-get) or GUI (kpackage) interfaces I'm used to, though.
considering apt-get -- life is just too complicated to be
Am Montag, 21. Februar 2005 17:03 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> Perhaps. It should, in any case, attempt to maintain compatibility with
> dpkg.
Hmm, does it really? It runs apt-get which runs dpkg. If you use a dpkg hold,
it should hold the package in that case although I am not sure if
--force-ho
On Monday 21 February 2005 11:32, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Montag, 21. Februar 2005 14:30 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> > I tried [aptitude] once and discovered it also
> > ignores my package holds).
> >
> > But for the purposes of the OP, if you want to get rid of, e.g., kteatime
> > but keep k
On Monday 21 February 2005 10:44, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
>
> What are you trying to say here?
>
> That aptitude is shit?
>
Yeah! Wanna make something of it :-)
No, seriously, it probably works, but it _doesn't_ play well with apt-get.
> - It's not, it rocks! And Aptitude keeps my hol
Am Montag, 21. Februar 2005 14:30 schrieb Derek Broughton:
> Well, no. You can remove any of those packages and they in turn will
> remove kde-core (using apt-get or kpackage - if you use aptitude and it
> removes all a metapackage's dependencies, I can only say it's a pathetic
> excuse for a pack
On Monday 21 February 2005 14:30, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > You know, you are probably right, though I believe you actually can't
> > avoid installing it. IIRC arts is just a meta package for basic
> > components of arts. All these are already installed by either kdebase,
> > kdelibs or by dependa
Ah, I understand. Since the beginning, I have been using dselect. I
realize many people consider it pase', but it works for me.
Now, if I could figure out who it was who decided to change the
"continue" key in dselect from "space" to "return" for Woody, and has
recently changed it back to "spac
On Monday 21 February 2005 06:52, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
> On Monday 21 February 2005 10:58, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > > Yes. And for a barebones kde install, you need kdebase, kdelibs and
> > > arts.
> >
> > arts is not absolutely necessary...
>
> You know, you are probably right, thoug
On Monday 21 February 2005 10:58, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > Yes. And for a barebones kde install, you need kdebase, kdelibs and arts.
>
> arts is not absolutely necessary...
You know, you are probably right, though I believe you actually can't avoid
installing it. IIRC arts is just a meta packag
Am Montag, 21. Februar 2005 09:35 schrieb Anders Ellenshøj Andersen:
> On Monday 21 February 2005 08:37, Ulrich Fürst wrote:
> > Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Saturday 19 February 2005 08:54, Hendrik Sattler was heard to say:
> > > > Who cares for the meta packages? They contain
On Monday 21 February 2005 08:37, Ulrich Fürst wrote:
> Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 February 2005 08:54, Hendrik Sattler was heard to say:
> > > Who cares for the meta packages? They contain not files and can be
> > > removed without any problem.
> >
> > I've seen res
Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 19 February 2005 08:54, Hendrik Sattler was heard to say:
> > Who cares for the meta packages? They contain not files and can be
> > removed without any problem.
>
> I've seen results which cast doubt on that statement.
e.g. with aptitude: If
El Sábado, 19 de Febrero de 2005 17:37, Tim Folger escribió:
> > Be aware also, that "kde" is just a metapackage, so if you
> > installed it, its dependencies where installed too, and now you can
> > remove it safely.
>
> So if I remove the kde metapackage, would that lead to any problems
> when I
On Saturday 19 February 2005 08:54, Hendrik Sattler was heard to say:
> Who cares for the meta packages? They contain not files and can be
> removed without any problem.
I've seen results which cast doubt on that statement.
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Tim Folger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to remove some kde apps that I seldom use--games, etc.--but
> when I try to use synaptic or apt-get to remove individual kde
> packages, apt and synaptic want to remove all of kde as well. What is
Just guessing: Did you install kde as metapackag
Curt Howland wrote:
> That's why the attempt to remove the application caused such a cascade
> of removals. I do not believe that aptitude is going to make any
> functional difference. Until we can urge a change in the dependency
> levels, I believe this question will come up over and over again.
Am Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 16:37 schrieb Adeodato Simó:
> * Hendrik Sattler [Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:54:20 +0100]:
> > Am Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 14:12 schrieb Curt Howland:
> > > The difficulty is that rather than "suggests" or "recommends", the KDE
> > > global metapackage(s) "depends" on many of
> Be aware also, that "kde" is just a metapackage, so if you
> installed it, its dependencies where installed too, and now you can
> remove it safely.
So if I remove the kde metapackage, would that lead to any problems
when I perform an apt-get upgrade?
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* Curt Howland [Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:12:57 -0500]:
> The difficulty is that rather than "suggests" or "recommends", the KDE
> global metapackage(s) "depends" on many of the unnecessary KDE
> applications not just the real core apps, and the core apps "depends"
> on the metapackage.
> That's why
* Hendrik Sattler [Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:54:20 +0100]:
> Am Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 14:12 schrieb Curt Howland:
> > The difficulty is that rather than "suggests" or "recommends", the KDE
> > global metapackage(s) "depends" on many of the unnecessary KDE
> > applications not just the real core apps,
Am Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 14:12 schrieb Curt Howland:
> The difficulty is that rather than "suggests" or "recommends", the KDE
> global metapackage(s) "depends" on many of the unnecessary KDE
> applications not just the real core apps, and the core apps "depends"
> on the metapackage.
Who cares
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The difficulty is that rather than "suggests" or "recommends", the KDE
global metapackage(s) "depends" on many of the unnecessary KDE
applications not just the real core apps, and the core apps "depends"
on the metapackage.
That's why the attempt t
El Sábado, 19 de Febrero de 2005 01:09, Tim Folger escribió:
> I'd like to remove some kde apps that I seldom use--games, etc.--but
> when I try to use synaptic or apt-get to remove individual kde
> packages, apt and synaptic want to remove all of kde as well. What is
> the best way to get rid of u
Tim Folger wrote:
> I'd like to remove some kde apps that I seldom use--games, etc.--but
> when I try to use synaptic or apt-get to remove individual kde
> packages, apt and synaptic want to remove all of kde as well. What is
> the best way to get rid of unwanted kde apps?
I do not know about syna
I'd like to remove some kde apps that I seldom use--games, etc.--but
when I try to use synaptic or apt-get to remove individual kde
packages, apt and synaptic want to remove all of kde as well. What is
the best way to get rid of unwanted kde apps?
Thanks,
Tim
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