Hi,
While we are talking about Xen development in Debian, I would
be interested in help getting kernel-package optionally create Xen
images. I had gotten stuff working back when Xen was a separate arch,
but now that it is a subarch, having people who build and test Xen
images would ma
Hi,
While we are talking about Xen development in Debian, I would
be interested in help getting kernel-package optionally create Xen
images. I had gotten stuff working back when Xen was a separate arch,
but now that it is a subarch, having people who build and test Xen
images would ma
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hello jeremy,
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote:
> I take issue with this because we [the xen team] have never excluded
> anyone and have tried to get all those people interested in solid Debian
> packages of xen to come forth and help. I spent a g
I take issue with this because we [the xen team] have never excluded
anyone and have tried to get all those people interested in solid Debian
packages of xen to come forth and help. I spent a good amount of time
before actually forming the Alioth project attempting to get in touch
with peop
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:59:17AM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
>
> > as the xen userspace is tightly integrated to the xen kernel,
> > it makes a lot of sense to release both in the same run.
>
> But it doesn't make sense to release them both as
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:29:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Hi,
> I guess that if people are able to find a kernel source tree outside of
> debian, they are perfectly capable of downloading and applying a patch too.
>
> Just include an URL to wherever such a patch is in the README.Debian of the
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:17:45PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Hi,
> > I can.
>
> :)
>
> Guido, be warned that Bastian often communicates with a few monosylabes and
> SVN commits :) This doesn't make working with him too problematic usually
> though :)
>
We've been a bit more chatty, for now, b
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:02:34PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 11:25:57AM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 10:15:39AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > > The current package from pkg-xen is not releasable.
> > Then why don't you just join and commit yo
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 11:25:57AM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 10:15:39AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > The current package from pkg-xen is not releasable.
> Then why don't you just join and commit your fixes before anybody tried to
> release it?
I can.
Bastian
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 10:15:39AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
Hi,
> The current package from pkg-xen is not releasable.
>
Then why don't you just join and commit your fixes before anybody tried to
release it?
Guido
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:59:17AM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Guido Trotter wrote:
> > Absolutely true! The current xen team is fully agrees on this position!
> xen 3.0 is out since the 6th of december!
> so it has seen considerable amount of production use since.
> as
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:59:17AM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
> as the xen userspace is tightly integrated to the xen kernel,
> it makes a lot of sense to release both in the same run.
I hear that the kernel team don't want to maintain userspace tools.
> the debian kernel team has always bee
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Guido Trotter wrote:
>
> Absolutely true! The current xen team is fully agrees on this position!
>
> Guido
xen 3.0 is out since the 6th of december!
so it has seen considerable amount of production use since.
as the xen userspace is tightly integrated to the xen kernel,
it
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:59:17AM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
> xen 3.0 is out since the 6th of december!
> so it has seen considerable amount of production use since.
> as the xen userspace is tightly integrated to the xen kernel,
> it makes a lot of sense to release both in the same run.
Th
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 01:51:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Hi,
> The kernel patches for XEN should be maintained inside the kernel team and in
> linux-2.6, they are free to join the kernel team to handle this, but it is
> unacceptable to have some kind of external patch to the kernel floating
>
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 08:39:13AM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 05:40:04PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > FWIW, the policy on kernel patches for sarge was that if it didn't apply to
> > the kernel sources we shipped, it didn't need to be included as a package
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 08:51:16AM -0800, Jurij Smakov wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Bastian Blank wrote:
>
> >On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:54:24PM +0100, Julien Danjou wrote:
> >>As far as I understand, you will just maintain Xen kernel images. (for
> >>dom0 only ?).
> >
> >No. The kernel team will
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 05:40:04PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Hi,
> FWIW, the policy on kernel patches for sarge was that if it didn't apply to
> the kernel sources we shipped, it didn't need to be included as a package in
> stable. We're obviously not shipping a 2.6.12 kernel for etch, so I
>
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 05:34:44PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Hi,
> > Yeah, it's a sort of kernel, but it's not the linux kernel... And it seems
> > the
> > kernel team is about the linux kernel, not just any kernel, isn't it?
>
> The dom0 kernel is a Linux kernel built for the Xen hypervisor
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:22:23PM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> > The debian kernel team will maintain xen images with the linux-2.6
> > source. I currently prepare both xen 3.0 and unstable packages, which
> > can be hopefully uploaded today. Maintainer will be the kernel team, as
> > there are
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:32:10PM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:06:22PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > It is a sort of kernel.
> Yeah, it's a sort of kernel, but it's not the linux kernel... And it seems the
> kernel team is about the linux kernel, not just any kernel
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:04:03 +0100
Guido Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The reason I think xen would be better served having its own
> committed team, repository, etc, is that it would be easier for
> anyone interested in xen to follow just mailing lists dedicated to it
> and its repository
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:06:22PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
Hi,
> It is a sort of kernel.
Yeah, it's a sort of kernel, but it's not the linux kernel... And it seems the
kernel team is about the linux kernel, not just any kernel, isn't it?
> Just to say, how connected xen to linux is:
>
> Fo
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 06:06:22PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> I won't reject the help of volunteers but I strongly think that the
> kernel team needs to have its hands on them.
How many members of the kernel team are planning to do active work on
Xen, kernel and userspace?
Greetings
Marc
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:56:35PM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> On the other hand Xen is not the
> kernel, so isn't it better if there is a team for it, even if strongly
> connected
> with the kernel one?
It is a sort of kernel. And no, I don't think i
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 05:41:53PM +0100, Isaac Clerencia wrote:
Hi,
> I agree. I just would like to ask that, please, don't disband just because of
> disagreement with the kernel team, but try to cooperate anyway.
>
I don't think we want to! And I hope there is no disagreement (we still don't
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Bastian Blank wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:54:24PM +0100, Julien Danjou wrote:
As far as I understand, you will just maintain Xen kernel images. (for
dom0 only ?).
No. The kernel team will maintain xen (in variants 3.0 and unstable).
Bastian, as far as I know, you
On Friday, 24 February 2006 17:34, Guido Trotter wrote:
> Yes, we could, of course... But on the other hand I believe that the xen
> hypervisor and userspace tools are actually different from the linux kernel
> (as they support multiple kernels and operating systems), even though the
> linux kernel
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 05:20:17PM +0100, Isaac Clerencia wrote:
Hi,
> Well, if the kernel team answers "left to the kernel team" and you close the
> alioth project, I guess you can always move into the kernel team ;)
>
Yes, we could, of course... But on the other hand I believe that the xen
h
On Friday, 24 February 2006 16:56, Guido Trotter wrote:
> So... what do you think we can do now? Can we join our efforts on xen or
> you strongly think it should be left to the kernel team, and we should just
> close the alioth project?
Well, if the kernel team answers "left to the kernel team" and
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 05:05:33PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> No. The kernel team will maintain xen (in variants 3.0 and unstable).
Okay, I misunderstood.
You will maintain userland tools too ?
Is you work is already finished and available somewhere ?
Right, I am juste a little disapointed. :)
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:54:24PM +0100, Julien Danjou wrote:
> As far as I understand, you will just maintain Xen kernel images. (for
> dom0 only ?).
No. The kernel team will maintain xen (in variants 3.0 and unstable).
Bastian
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:54:24PM +0100, Julien Danjou wrote:
Hi,
> As far as I understand, you will just maintain Xen kernel images. (for
> dom0 only ?).
Actually I think he meant the hypervisors too... Anyway I also think that if the
kernel team is going to maintain the kernel images there sh
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:37:56PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
Hi,
> > This is great! In the meantime we are working on uploading xen 3.0 to
> > unstable,
> > and our packages I think are almost ready too!
>
> This is insufficient. Either maintain both 3.0 and unstable or none. In
> the meantim
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:37:56PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> This is insufficient. Either maintain both 3.0 and unstable or none. In
> the meantime, the kernel team will maintain both.
As far as I understand, you will just maintain Xen kernel images. (for
dom0 only ?).
We just have to duplicat
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:22:23PM +0100, Guido Trotter wrote:
> This is great! In the meantime we are working on uploading xen 3.0 to
> unstable,
> and our packages I think are almost ready too!
This is insufficient. Either maintain both 3.0 and unstable or none. In
the meantime, the kernel team
Bastian Blank wrote:
Hi!
> The debian kernel team will maintain xen images with the linux-2.6
> source. I currently prepare both xen 3.0 and unstable packages, which
> can be hopefully uploaded today. Maintainer will be the kernel team, as
> there are heavy dependencies between xen and the kernel
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