Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-05-29 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 18:33 +0200, Martin S. wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 10:38 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Paul McEnery wrote: > > > On 27 April 2010 17:39, Julien BLACHE wrote: > > >> Olivier Galibert wrote: > [SNIP] > > > Is anyone prepared to commit to

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-05-28 Thread Martin S.
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 10:38 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Paul McEnery wrote: > > On 27 April 2010 17:39, Julien BLACHE wrote: > >> Olivier Galibert wrote: [SNIP] > > Is anyone prepared to commit to including a pairing utility and the > > udev rule as part of li

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-05-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Paul McEnery wrote: > On 27 April 2010 17:39, Julien BLACHE wrote: >> Olivier Galibert wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>> Why can't ipheth just depend on libimobiledevice-utils ?  It *is* a >>> functional dependency after all, even if they're not communicating >>> directly

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-29 Thread Paul McEnery
On 27 April 2010 17:39, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Olivier Galibert wrote: > > Hi, > >> Why can't ipheth just depend on libimobiledevice-utils ?  It *is* a >> functional dependency after all, even if they're not communicating >> directly with each other. > > The ipheth-dkms package will disappear bec

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 06:39:46PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Olivier Galibert wrote: > > Hi, > > > Why can't ipheth just depend on libimobiledevice-utils ? It *is* a > > functional dependency after all, even if they're not communicating > > directly with each other. > > The ipheth-dkms pac

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Julien BLACHE
Olivier Galibert wrote: Hi, > Why can't ipheth just depend on libimobiledevice-utils ? It *is* a > functional dependency after all, even if they're not communicating > directly with each other. The ipheth-dkms package will disappear because ipheth has been accepted upstream and the kernel team

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 03:14:07PM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: > How about this then libimobiledevice-utils supplying the udev rule > and pairing utility, and providing a virtual package which "Provides: > ipheth-support"? Maybe the provides bit is not required... Why can't ipheth just depend o

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Paul McEnery
On 27 April 2010 14:33, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: >> On 27 April 2010 10:47, Martin S. wrote: >>> On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 00:38 +0200, L. Alberto Giménez wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:55:53AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: > In order for

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: > On 27 April 2010 10:47, Martin S. wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 00:38 +0200, L. Alberto Giménez wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:55:53AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: >>> > In order for the udev rule to execute *any* application which per

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Paul McEnery
On 27 April 2010 10:47, Martin S. wrote: > On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 00:38 +0200, L. Alberto Giménez wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:55:53AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: >> > In order for the udev rule to execute *any* application which performs >> > the pairing, that application must exist in some

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Martin S.
On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 00:38 +0200, L. Alberto Giménez wrote: > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:55:53AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: > > In order for the udev rule to execute *any* application which performs > > the pairing, that application must exist in some package. That package > > will need to be a de

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Julien BLACHE
"Martin S." wrote: Hi, > Why not add an udev rule to the ipheth package which checks for the > "USBMUX_SUPPORTED" flag and the ipheth module being "added", then calls > the idevicepairing tool to pair? > > Thus the ipheth module would simply depend on > libimobiledevice-tools/-utils and the iphe

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-26 Thread L . Alberto Giménez
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:55:53AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: > In order for the udev rule to execute *any* application which performs > the pairing, that application must exist in some package. That package > will need to be a dependency of usbmuxd (unless usbmuxd provides it). > It cannot simply

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-24 Thread Paul McEnery
On 24 April 2010 11:01, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> Was was the final decision of merging the small util into one of the >>> other packages and the udev rules into usbmuxd? >>> >> >> This was discussed a few weeks ago, but I don't recall anyone being in >> overwhelming support of the idea. I'm not s

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-24 Thread Peter Robinson
>> Was was the final decision of merging the small util into one of the >> other packages and the udev rules into usbmuxd? >> > > This was discussed a few weeks ago, but I don't recall anyone being in > overwhelming support of the idea. I'm not sure that usbmuxd should > have *libimobiledevice-util

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-24 Thread Paul McEnery
On 24 April 2010 08:00, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Paul McEnery wrote: >> 2010/4/22 Ben Hutchings : >>> On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: [...] > 1. Keep the ipheth-utils pack

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-24 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Paul McEnery wrote: > 2010/4/22 Ben Hutchings : >> On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >>> On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: >>> [...] >>> > 1. Keep the ipheth-utils package and drop ipheth-dkms when ipheth >>> > makes it in

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-23 Thread Paul McEnery
2010/4/22 Ben Hutchings : > On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: >> [...] >> > 1. Keep the ipheth-utils package and drop ipheth-dkms when ipheth >> > makes it into the mainline kernel. Given that mainline inclusion could >

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: > [...] > > 1. Keep the ipheth-utils package and drop ipheth-dkms when ipheth > > makes it into the mainline kernel. Given that mainline inclusion could > > take a while, users (of Debia

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-07 Thread Paul McEnery
On 3 April 2010 22:11, "L. Alberto Giménez" wrote: > On 04/02/2010 10:09 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: > [...] >> Without wanting to say anything on >> Bradley's behalf, it appeared as if he was in support of the tethering >> driver being implemented in kernel space. That said, and given the >> maturity

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-04 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 21:20 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: > Hi Martin. > > Thanks for your input on this. I know there was a brief discussion on > the topic of a kernel vs user space tethering driver, and speed was > one of the topics. I recall a few claims being made about how much > faster kernel

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-03 Thread L. Alberto Giménez
On 04/02/2010 10:09 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: [...] > Without wanting to say anything on > Bradley's behalf, it appeared as if he was in support of the tethering > driver being implemented in kernel space. That said, and given the > maturity of ipheth, would it be fair to say that ipheth is the way >

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: [...] > 1. Keep the ipheth-utils package and drop ipheth-dkms when ipheth > makes it into the mainline kernel. Given that mainline inclusion could > take a while, users (of Debian at least) could start to benefit almost > immediately since all

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-02 Thread Paul McEnery
On 2 April 2010 15:11, "L. Alberto Giménez" wrote: > On 04/01/2010 10:20 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: >> >> Ben, one of the reasons that I was slow to respond to the call to >> integrate ipheth into the mainline kernel is that I don't believe that >> it belongs there. It's far too dependent on other bi

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-02 Thread L. Alberto Giménez
On 04/01/2010 10:20 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: > > Ben, one of the reasons that I was slow to respond to the call to > integrate ipheth into the mainline kernel is that I don't believe that > it belongs there. It's far too dependent on other bits and pieces in > order to function. It requires the use

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Martin S.
olved on Mac OS X and Windows by iTunes. --- Martin S. > > > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Paul McEnery wrote: > > > From: Paul McEnery > > Subject: Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth > > To: "Martin S." > > Cc: "Ben Hutchings" , "Julien BLACHE&

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Daniel Borca
rom: Paul McEnery > Subject: Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth > To: "Martin S." > Cc: "Ben Hutchings" , "Julien BLACHE" > , libimobiledevice-de...@lists.libimobiledevice.org, > "Debian kernel team" , "Daniel Borca" > , "Dieg

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Paul McEnery
On 1 April 2010 18:23, Martin S. wrote: > On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 14:30 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: >> On 1 April 2010 14:07, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> > Paul, >> > >> > I missed you talking about ipheth on IRC earlier. >> > >> > I've seen the submission of ipheth on the netdev mailing list, and made

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Martin S.
On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 14:30 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: > On 1 April 2010 14:07, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Paul, > > > > I missed you talking about ipheth on IRC earlier. > > > > I've seen the submission of ipheth on the netdev mailing list, and made > > some comments on it there. If it is accepted

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: > On 1 April 2010 14:07, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> Paul, >> >> I missed you talking about ipheth on IRC earlier. >> >> I've seen the submission of ipheth on the netdev mailing list, and made >> some comments on it there.  If it is accepted, we can