Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-05-29 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 18:33 +0200, Martin S. wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 10:38 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2010 17:39, Julien BLACHE jbla...@debian.org wrote: Olivier Galibert galib...@pobox.com wrote:

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-05-28 Thread Martin S.
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 10:38 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2010 17:39, Julien BLACHE jbla...@debian.org wrote: Olivier Galibert galib...@pobox.com wrote: [SNIP] Is anyone prepared to commit to including a

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-05-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2010 17:39, Julien BLACHE jbla...@debian.org wrote: Olivier Galibert galib...@pobox.com wrote: Hi, Why can't ipheth just depend on libimobiledevice-utils ?  It *is* a functional dependency after all, even if

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-29 Thread Paul McEnery
On 27 April 2010 17:39, Julien BLACHE jbla...@debian.org wrote: Olivier Galibert galib...@pobox.com wrote: Hi, Why can't ipheth just depend on libimobiledevice-utils ?  It *is* a functional dependency after all, even if they're not communicating directly with each other. The ipheth-dkms

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Julien BLACHE
Martin S. i...@sukimashita.com wrote: Hi, Why not add an udev rule to the ipheth package which checks for the USBMUX_SUPPORTED flag and the ipheth module being added, then calls the idevicepairing tool to pair? Thus the ipheth module would simply depend on libimobiledevice-tools/-utils and

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Martin S.
On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 00:38 +0200, L. Alberto Giménez wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:55:53AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: In order for the udev rule to execute *any* application which performs the pairing, that application must exist in some package. That package will need to be a

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Paul McEnery
On 27 April 2010 10:47, Martin S. i...@sukimashita.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 00:38 +0200, L. Alberto Giménez wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:55:53AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: In order for the udev rule to execute *any* application which performs the pairing, that application must

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2010 10:47, Martin S. i...@sukimashita.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 00:38 +0200, L. Alberto Giménez wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:55:53AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: In order for the udev rule to

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Paul McEnery
On 27 April 2010 14:33, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2010 10:47, Martin S. i...@sukimashita.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 00:38 +0200, L. Alberto Giménez wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 03:14:07PM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: How about this then libimobiledevice-utils supplying the udev rule and pairing utility, and providing a virtual package which Provides: ipheth-support? Maybe the provides bit is not required... Why can't ipheth just depend on

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Julien BLACHE
Olivier Galibert galib...@pobox.com wrote: Hi, Why can't ipheth just depend on libimobiledevice-utils ? It *is* a functional dependency after all, even if they're not communicating directly with each other. The ipheth-dkms package will disappear because ipheth has been accepted upstream and

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-27 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 06:39:46PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: Olivier Galibert galib...@pobox.com wrote: Hi, Why can't ipheth just depend on libimobiledevice-utils ? It *is* a functional dependency after all, even if they're not communicating directly with each other. The

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-26 Thread L . Alberto Giménez
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:55:53AM +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: In order for the udev rule to execute *any* application which performs the pairing, that application must exist in some package. That package will need to be a dependency of usbmuxd (unless usbmuxd provides it). It cannot simply be

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-24 Thread Paul McEnery
2010/4/22 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: [...] 1. Keep the ipheth-utils package and drop ipheth-dkms when ipheth makes it into the mainline kernel. Given that mainline

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-24 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/4/22 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: [...] 1. Keep the ipheth-utils package and drop ipheth-dkms

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-24 Thread Paul McEnery
On 24 April 2010 08:00, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/4/22 Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-24 Thread Peter Robinson
Was was the final decision of merging the small util into one of the other packages and the udev rules into usbmuxd? This was discussed a few weeks ago, but I don't recall anyone being in overwhelming support of the idea. I'm not sure that usbmuxd should have *libimobiledevice-utils* as a

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-24 Thread Paul McEnery
On 24 April 2010 11:01, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Was was the final decision of merging the small util into one of the other packages and the udev rules into usbmuxd? This was discussed a few weeks ago, but I don't recall anyone being in overwhelming support of the idea. I'm

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: [...] 1. Keep the ipheth-utils package and drop ipheth-dkms when ipheth makes it into the mainline kernel. Given that mainline inclusion could take a while, users (of Debian at

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-07 Thread Paul McEnery
On 3 April 2010 22:11, L. Alberto Giménez agime...@sysvalve.es wrote: On 04/02/2010 10:09 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: [...] Without wanting to say anything on Bradley's behalf, it appeared as if he was in support of the tethering driver being implemented in kernel space. That said, and given the

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-04 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 21:20 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: snip Hi Martin. Thanks for your input on this. I know there was a brief discussion on the topic of a kernel vs user space tethering driver, and speed was one of the topics. I recall a few claims being made about how much faster kernel

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-03 Thread L. Alberto Giménez
On 04/02/2010 10:09 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: [...] Without wanting to say anything on Bradley's behalf, it appeared as if he was in support of the tethering driver being implemented in kernel space. That said, and given the maturity of ipheth, would it be fair to say that ipheth is the way

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-02 Thread L. Alberto Giménez
On 04/01/2010 10:20 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: Ben, one of the reasons that I was slow to respond to the call to integrate ipheth into the mainline kernel is that I don't believe that it belongs there. It's far too dependent on other bits and pieces in order to function. It requires the user

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-02 Thread Paul McEnery
On 2 April 2010 15:11, L. Alberto Giménez agime...@sysvalve.es wrote: On 04/01/2010 10:20 PM, Paul McEnery wrote: Ben, one of the reasons that I was slow to respond to the call to integrate ipheth into the mainline kernel is that I don't believe that it belongs there. It's far too dependent

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 21:09 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: [...] 1. Keep the ipheth-utils package and drop ipheth-dkms when ipheth makes it into the mainline kernel. Given that mainline inclusion could take a while, users (of Debian at least) could start to benefit almost immediately since all of

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 April 2010 14:07, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: Paul, I missed you talking about ipheth on IRC earlier. I've seen the submission of ipheth on the netdev mailing list, and made some comments on it there.  

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Martin S.
On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 14:30 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: On 1 April 2010 14:07, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: Paul, I missed you talking about ipheth on IRC earlier. I've seen the submission of ipheth on the netdev mailing list, and made some comments on it there. If it is

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Paul McEnery
On 1 April 2010 18:23, Martin S. i...@sukimashita.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 14:30 +0100, Paul McEnery wrote: On 1 April 2010 14:07, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: Paul, I missed you talking about ipheth on IRC earlier. I've seen the submission of ipheth on the netdev

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Daniel Borca
wrote: From: Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth To: Martin S. i...@sukimashita.com Cc: Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk, Julien BLACHE jbla...@debian.org, libimobiledevice-de...@lists.libimobiledevice.org, Debian kernel team debian-kernel

Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth

2010-04-01 Thread Martin S.
, 4/1/10, Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com wrote: From: Paul McEnery pmcen...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libimobiledevice-devel] ipheth To: Martin S. i...@sukimashita.com Cc: Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk, Julien BLACHE jbla...@debian.org, libimobiledevice-de