Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:26:57 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Sven Luther wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:35:56AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> What architecture line are we talking about here? Is there a bug >>> report number I can refer to to refresh my memory on th

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 06:26:57PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:35:56AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> What architecture line are we talking about here? Is there a > >> bug repor

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:35:56AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> What architecture line are we talking about here? Is there a >> bug report number I can refer to to refresh my memory on this issue? > > ... > >>

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:35:56AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > What architecture line are we talking about here? Is there a > bug report number I can refer to to refresh my memory on this issue? ... > Again, what is broken about EXTRAVERSION? Which bug reports > are we talk

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:48:22 +0100, Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:31:22AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> And Bastian is decidetly anti make-kpkg and wants to remove all >> make-kpkg use from linux-2.6 as stated several times now. You can >> see begini

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 12:09:09PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> I believe that maintaining yaird separately from debian-kernel helps >> avoid interest conflicts. > > Well, this is where you are wrong, there is no conclict of

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 12:09:09PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sven Luther wrote: > > BTW, jonas, i notice also : > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403203 > > Yes. I was slightly baffled about that bugreport fork,

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: > BTW, jonas, i notice also : > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403203 Yes. I was slightly baffled about that bugreport fork, and is still wondering what to do about it: To me is seems like a report against the

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:31:22AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > And Bastian is decidetly anti make-kpkg and wants to remove all > make-kpkg use from linux-2.6 as stated several times now. You can see > beginings of that in the xen kernels. That happens if the same problems happens over and

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:47:56AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:31:22AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, the real problem is that Manoj could be part of the kernel team, > > > and to > > > a point even is, since he

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:31:22AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Well, the real problem is that Manoj could be part of the kernel team, and > > to > > a point even is, since he has svn access to the repo. > > > > But there is a problem, in that Ma

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 04:40:16PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >From personal experience I must say that bugs reported against >> kernel-package get manojs attention fast and get fixed fast. >> >> Bugs against the linux-2.6 source get ignored or

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 12:30:28AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:50:04 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > > > Sven Luther wrote: > >> Manoj's principal preocupacion is those user who build their own > >> kernel, and the official kernel is only an afte

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:50:04 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Sven Luther wrote: >> Manoj's principal preocupacion is those user who build their own >> kernel, and the official kernel is only an after thought This is a egregious mischaracterization of my stance. > In

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: > Manoj's principal preocupacion is those user who build their own > kernel, and the official kernel is only an after thought In my understanding kernel-package is intended as a _generic_ tool for Debian-packaging a Linux kernel, o

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 04:40:16PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >From personal experience I must say that bugs reported against > kernel-package get manojs attention fast and get fixed fast. > > Bugs against the linux-2.6 source get ignored or you get comments like > "breaks cross building

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:43:06PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:36:30 +0100, Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > I'm not longer interrested in communicating errors in software, >> > which is not able to catch errors but

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:41:50PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > yes i want to add 2.6.18.5 to linux-2.6 sid, > > not sure if it breaks abi through.. > Sounds to me like something to look into *after* 2.6.18 has had a chance to > reach testing? You have to force them than. Bastian -- Killing

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 03:41:24PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 02:44:11PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:10:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:48:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > We need another upload

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Teodor-Adrian MICU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think it is a good ideea to adopt 2.6.19 for etch if its possible. Please don't unless we can't avoid it. Each time we bring in a new kernel, those of us who maintain external kernel modules have to do a bunch of work to catch up with all the AP

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:43:06PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:36:30 +0100, Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > >> - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says "Should > >> ignore, >

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:36:30 +0100, Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: >> - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says "Should >> ignore, >> but forced by vorlon", so does this mean it will enter testing >> today ?

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:36:30AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says "Should ignore, > > but forced by vorlon", so does this mean it will enter testing today ? > > What a

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread maximilian attems
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 02:44:11PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:10:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:48:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > We need another upload of linux-2.6 and linux-modules-extra-2.6 to fix > > > > the following issue

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:10:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:48:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > We need another upload of linux-2.6 and linux-modules-extra-2.6 to fix > > > the following issues: > > Ok, do we have a plan for this ? > Not yet. Can we upload that

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread maximilian attems
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: > Frankly, 2.6.16 was a total cock-up. Aside from all the extra work it made > for the release team, I even found patches I had to reapply for alpha > because they were dropped on the floor when 2.6.16 was merged to trunk. I > am very much opposed to h

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 02:41:08AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 10:51:57AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > The -k7 issue, i don't know, can it be a flavour that was dropped or > > something ? > > linux-latest-2.6 is not a candidate because not yet uploaded on sparc. > That

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:48:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > We need another upload of linux-2.6 and linux-modules-extra-2.6 to fix > > the following issues: > Ok, do we have a plan for this ? Not yet. > > I'm not longer interrested in communicating errors in software, which is > > not able

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 10:51:57AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > The -k7 issue, i don't know, can it be a flavour that was dropped or > something ? linux-latest-2.6 is not a candidate because not yet uploaded on sparc. That's the easy part; linux-modules-extra-2.6 is the harder part, currently fail

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:36:30AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says "Should ignore, > > but forced by vorlon", so does this mean it will enter testing today ? > > What a

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Teodor-Adrian MICU
I think it is a good ideea to adopt 2.6.19 for etch if its possible. I looked over the changelogs in 2.6.18 and there is one issue that concerns me: commit a4fce7747b167aa5e9aa43c4f816744d8a97e021 Author: Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed Oct 11 01:53:26 2006 -0700 NETFILTER: NA

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says "Should ignore, > but forced by vorlon", so does this mean it will enter testing today ? > What about the remaining (or new) RC bugs ? Some of them being open > aga

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 10:37:01AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061201 20:30]: > > - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says "Should ignore, > > but forced by vorlon", so does this mean it will enter testing today ? > > What about the re

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061201 20:30]: > - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says "Should ignore, > but forced by vorlon", so does this mean it will enter testing today ? > What about the remaining (or new) RC bugs ? Some of them being open > against 2.6.17

2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-01 Thread Sven Luther
Hi fellow all debian-kernel team members and others, The 2.6.19 kernel was released on november 29, and this seems to be the first kernel since 2.6.14, which we are not supporting quickly, or don't have any coherent plan to do so in the near future. This makes sense because the 2.6.18 is the plane