Re: Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 31, Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is where these threads usually end... > With one of your terse one-liners? With none of the complainers actually being useful to provide a better solution. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-30 Thread Horms
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 01:59:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 31, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you aren't > > satisfied with the current solution, the answer is to figure out a > > better one rather than lamenting that no one else has. (I do have a > This is where t

Re: Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 31, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you aren't > satisfied with the current solution, the answer is to figure out a > better one rather than lamenting that no one else has. (I do have a This is where these threads usually end... -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description:

Re: Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 11:48:17PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > (pruning CC list; AFAIK all will still get the message this way) > On Tuesday 30 August 2005 04:56, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > So we're going to have another release with a very elaborate upgrade > > > procedure in the release notes (wh

Re: Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-30 Thread Frans Pop
(pruning CC list; AFAIK all will still get the message this way) On Tuesday 30 August 2005 04:56, Steve Langasek wrote: > > So we're going to have another release with a very elaborate upgrade > > procedure in the release notes (which a lot of users, especially > > desktop users, don't read anyway

Re: Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 29 August 2005 12:35, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 29, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In effect this means that any user having udev installed will have to > > put udev on hold. > > No, if the kernel has not been upgraded yet then preinst will fail. Hmm. Won't that fail the who

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:26:09AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > reassign 325484 udev > retitle 325484 udev lacks sarge->etch upgrade path > thanks > On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 01:46:49AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12 should enter testing at the same > > time.

Fwd: Re: Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Frans Pop
FYI. I thought this would end up on d-kernel, but only saw afterwards that horms had reassigned the bug to udev :-) I fully agree with his assessment: this is no way to do upgrades. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.1

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2005-08-29 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 325484 udev Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12 Bug reassigned from package `udev,linux-2.6' to `udev'. > retitle 325484 udev lacks sarge->etch upgrade path Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Bastian Blank
reassign 325484 udev retitle 325484 udev lacks sarge->etch upgrade path thanks On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 01:46:49AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12 should enter testing at the same > time. You have to provide a proper sarge->etch upgrade path. This bug is the sign

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 29, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, badly worded maybe :), but i think your RC bug on the kernel without > prior discussion may have been somewhat rude. It was discussed with vorlon. > Anyway, i was expecting some explanation about the reason why this mess > happened, especi

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 29, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It was discussed with vorlon. > Vorlon is not the kernel team however. But he is the one who decides when packages should or should not go in testing, which is what this bug is about. > What do you think of having two udev packages, which are

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:04:18AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 29, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, badly worded maybe :), but i think your RC bug on the kernel without > > prior discussion may have been somewhat rude. > It was discussed with vorlon. Vorlon is not the ke

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 10:54:59AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 29, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Did you really need to make such a mess about this ? > Yes, but thank you for asking about it. Well, badly worded maybe :), but i think your RC bug on the kernel without prior d

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 01:46:49AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Package: udev,linux-2.6 > Severity: grave > > udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12 should enter testing at the same > time. > If udev is first it will refuse to be upgraded (or install but disable > itself on new installs), if the ke

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 10:22:59AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 29, Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can this be resolved by some dependancies and conflicts? > This is supposed to be a FAQ: packages cannot have explicit dependencies > on kernel packages. While doing breakage things i

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 29, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you really need to make such a mess about this ? Yes, but thank you for asking about it. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 29, Horms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can this be resolved by some dependancies and conflicts? This is supposed to be a FAQ: packages cannot have explicit dependencies on kernel packages. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-28 Thread Horms
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 01:46:49AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Package: udev,linux-2.6 > Severity: grave > > udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12 should enter testing at the same > time. > If udev is first it will refuse to be upgraded (or install but disable > itself on new installs), if the ke

Bug#325484: udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12

2005-08-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
Package: udev,linux-2.6 Severity: grave udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12 should enter testing at the same time. If udev is first it will refuse to be upgraded (or install but disable itself on new installs), if the kernel is first some udev rules (at least the ones referencing sysfs attribute