Ian Jackson writes:
>> The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are:
>> 1. All x86 processors with names including '486'
>
> I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to
> have to replace it.
...
> vendor_id : CentaurHauls
> cpu family: 6
> model
Hello,
2011/11/23 Matthias Klose :
> On 11/19/2011 11:42 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>> (Later it should be increased
>> further, and eventually i386 should be reduced to a partial architecture
>> that may be installed on amd64 systems.) This would allow the use of
>> optimisations and new instruct
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 07:20:11PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
> long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
> and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor.
>
> I think it is time to increase
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 00:44 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 11/19/2011 11:42 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
> > long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
> > and now require a minimum of a 486-class
[Goswin von Brederlow]
> Where the relevant patches added to binutils and gcc for this?
See for yourself: http://sites.google.com/site/x32abi/
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Matthias Klose writes:
> On 11/19/2011 11:42 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>> The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
>> long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
>> and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor.
>>
>> I think it is ti
On 11/20/2011 01:08 AM, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 22:42:11 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>> The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
>> long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
>> and now require a minimum of a 4
On 11/19/2011 11:42 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
> long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
> and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor.
>
> I think it is time to increase the minimum requi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:47:20PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Ben Hutchings writes ("Increasing minimum 'i386' processor"):
> > The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are:
> > 1. All x86 processors with names including '486'
>
OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du mardi 22 novembre 2011, vers 18:28,
Bastian Blank disait :
>> > The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are:
>> > 1. All x86 processors with names including '486'
>> I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to
>> have
Ben Hutchings writes ("Increasing minimum 'i386' processor"):
> The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are:
> 1. All x86 processors with names including '486'
I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to
have
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:47:20PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Ben Hutchings writes ("Increasing minimum 'i386' processor"):
> > The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are:
> > 1. All x86 processors with names including '486'
> I
How does one do a simple test to see if one is on the death list?
# grep -c 86 /proc/cpuinfo
0
# lshw | grep -c 86
0
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On Sunday 20 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-11-20 at 19:43 +, David Goodenough wrote:
> > On Sunday 20 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2011-11-20 at 10:10 +, David Goodenough wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 19 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > > > The i386 architec
On Sun, 2011-11-20 at 19:43 +, David Goodenough wrote:
> On Sunday 20 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Sun, 2011-11-20 at 10:10 +, David Goodenough wrote:
> > > On Saturday 19 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > > The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
On Sunday 20 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-11-20 at 10:10 +, David Goodenough wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
> > > long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible
On Sun, 2011-11-20 at 10:10 +, David Goodenough wrote:
> On Saturday 19 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
> > long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
> > and now require a minimum of a 486-cl
On Nov 19, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> I think it is time to increase the minimum requirement to 586-class, if
> not for wheezy then immediately after.
I agree, it's time to weight the costs and benefits of supporting
obsolete hardware at the expense of most users.
> (Later it should be increased
> f
Guillem Jover writes:
> Hi!
>
> On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 22:42:11 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>> The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
>> long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
>> and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor.
>>
On Saturday 19 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
> long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
> and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor.
>
> I think it is time to increase the minimum requ
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> Also possibly:
> 6. DM&P/SiS Vortex86 and Vortex86SX. These supposedly have all
>586-class features except an FPU, and we could probably keep FPU
>emulation for them.
FWIW, I do run Debian on such systems albeit with a custom kernel.
Given those
Hi!
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 22:42:11 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
> long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
> and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor.
>
> I think it is time to increas
The i386 architecture was the first in Linux and in Debian, but we have
long since dropped support for the original i386-compatible processors
and now require a minimum of a 486-class processor.
I think it is time to increase the minimum requirement to 586-class, if
not for wheezy then immediately
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