Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-03 Thread Andres Salomon
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 18:10 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 03:43:42PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > >until fairly recently; we've gotten conflicting answers ranging from "We > >should provide kernel updates and the security team will use them > >verbatim" > > generally the

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-02 Thread Horms
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 06:10:38PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 03:43:42PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > >until fairly recently; we've gotten conflicting answers ranging from "We > >should provide kernel updates and the security team will use them > >verbatim" > > genera

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 03:43:42PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: until fairly recently; we've gotten conflicting answers ranging from "We should provide kernel updates and the security team will use them verbatim" generally the security team at least glances at what's released in a dsa. to "D

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-02 Thread Andres Salomon
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 13:54 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 12:07:50PM +0900, Horms wrote: > >Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. However it seems that > >working with the security team on this is difficult - > >lack of response being a primary issue. > > What response do you wa

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 12:07:50PM +0900, Horms wrote: Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. However it seems that working with the security team on this is difficult - lack of response being a primary issue. What response do you want? I sent a message 2 months ago asking how kernel updates were bei

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 12:07:50PM +0900, Horms wrote: plan to redo the d-i boot stuff (aiui), so d-i will boot the old 3.1r0 kernels, while it will install the 3.1r1 kernels (it would be better to talk to him to clarify this, however). Will the boot kernel actually be upgraded in this case? M

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-02 Thread Horms
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:55:12AM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 12:07:50PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > > > With regards to an ABI bump, to be honest I am dubious that we can ever > > make an ABI update. It would probably be just as easy to jump to a > > whole new kernel (2.6.8

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Jesus Climent
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 12:07:50PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > With regards to an ABI bump, to be honest I am dubious that we can ever > make an ABI update. It would probably be just as easy to jump to a > whole new kernel (2.6.8 -> 2.6.12?), which is something that we should > seriously consider. An

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Horms
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 12:11:29PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:40:26 +0900, Horms wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 09:28:37AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > >> * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 08:23]: > >> > I am wondering if others thing that volatile is a good > >

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Andres Salomon
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:40:26 +0900, Horms wrote: > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 09:28:37AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: >> * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 08:23]: >> > I am wondering if others thing that volatile is a good >> > place for us to make uploads of updated 2.6.8 and 2.4.27 kerels for >> >

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Horms, On Monday, 01 Aug 2005, Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:52:48AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 11:43]: > > > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 09:28:37AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 08:23

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:42]: > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 12:14:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:01]: > > > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:52:48AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > Yes, that was about my intention as well. So, yes, please move fo

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Horms
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 12:14:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:01]: > > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:52:48AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > Yes, that was about my intention as well. So, yes, please move forward > > > with 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 and send a list of

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:01]: > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:52:48AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Yes, that was about my intention as well. So, yes, please move forward > > with 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 and send a list of recommended updates. > I need to go through the BTS and see what els

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Horms
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 11:52:48AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 11:43]: > > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 09:28:37AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 08:23]: > > > > I am wondering if others thing that volatile is a good > > > > pl

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 11:43]: > On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 09:28:37AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 08:23]: > > > I am wondering if others thing that volatile is a good > > > place for us to make uploads of updated 2.6.8 and 2.4.27 kerels for > > > S

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Horms
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 09:28:37AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 08:23]: > > I am wondering if others thing that volatile is a good > > place for us to make uploads of updated 2.6.8 and 2.4.27 kerels for > > Sarge? This would allow us to remove these kernels from

Re: Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-08-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Horms ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 08:23]: > I am wondering if others thing that volatile is a good > place for us to make uploads of updated 2.6.8 and 2.4.27 kerels for > Sarge? This would allow us to remove these kernels from unstable/testing > and still provide maintenence releases for users.

Sarge kernels and Volatile

2005-07-31 Thread Horms
Hi, I am wondering if others thing that volatile is a good place for us to make uploads of updated 2.6.8 and 2.4.27 kerels for Sarge? This would allow us to remove these kernels from unstable/testing and still provide maintenence releases for users. On a related note, I am sifting thought the bug