Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-05 Thread dann frazier
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 12:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > a) less maintaince overhead for the security team I don't think this is the case; but like you said, lets hear from them before making this conclusion. > b) kernel-patch packages always work cross-plattform define "work" :) By

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [snip] > >> linux-kernel-KVERS-ARCH(-SUBVERS) (plus extras, see below) > > > > remov the -kernel, linux is the kernel, and upstream tarballs are > > linux-$version, too. > > > > remove the -arch, it'll be .$arch.deb anyway, rather add a -flavour. > > What do you name li

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > First time I see this wiki page. Comments: > >> new naming scheme getting rid of "image" as part or package names (only >> for Provides: - compatibility issues), instead, distinguishing between >> linux and hurd. First idea: >> >> linux-kernel-

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-03 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 10:27:46AM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > We would be introducing the requirement to merge all the architectures > patches, today > we don't have that requirement. Thus, more maintenance. _If_ you actually have something to merge it's more initial work. But less maintaince

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-03 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Christoph Hellwig wrote: [snip] > well, if we want a reasonably maintained kernel we should do uploads > about once a week anyway (that's still much less than the commcerial > distros), Just FYI, 10 days is the normal time interval needed for a unstable->testing transition. Weekly uploads would en

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-02 Thread dann frazier
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 04:41:20PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 07:52:15AM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > > I believe its a greater maintenance mess to attempt to keep them united. > > I can be more confident that upstream's ia64 arch patch will apply > > reasonably > >

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-02 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 06:45:27PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 04:41:20PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > So when was the last s390-specific exploit you heard of? Or any > > architecture-specific exploit? > > Hmm, the ptrace exploit was only applicable on archs which

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 04:41:20PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > So when was the last s390-specific exploit you heard of? Or any > architecture-specific exploit? Hmm, the ptrace exploit was only applicable on archs which uses one large memory space for user/kernelspace. Bastian -- Spock: T

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* dann frazier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040602 17:55]: > From my conversations with Joey, the problem with today's scheme is that they > can't > just patch one source tree & do rebuilds, since everyone is on different > kernel revisions > and some (ia64 in woody, for example), don't even use a kernel

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-02 Thread dann frazier
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 12:14:58PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > linux-kernel-KVERS-ARCH(-SUBVERS) (plus extras, see below) > > remov the -kernel, linux is the kernel, and upstream tarballs are > linux-$version, too. > > remove the -arch, it'll be .$arch.deb anyway, rather add a -flavour.

Re: http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-02 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 07:52:15AM -0600, dann frazier wrote: > > > * architecture support patches hard to apply unless the main > > > kernel-source > > >package is "pristine" > > > > as mentioned a few times architecture packages should be part of the > > main kernel-source to avoid a big m

http://debian.linuxwiki.de/DebianKernel_2fPlan

2004-06-02 Thread Christoph Hellwig
First time I see this wiki page. Comments: > new naming scheme getting rid of "image" as part or package names (only > for Provides: - compatibility issues), instead, distinguishing between > linux and hurd. First idea: > > linux-kernel-source-KVERS > > > linux-kernel-KVERS-ARCH(-SUBVERS) (