Bug#383403: marked as done (linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2009-03-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:41:28 +0100 with message-id <20090325114128.ga5...@stro.at> and subject line drivers containing firmware blobs has caused the Debian Bug report #242866, regarding linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware to be marked as done.

Bug#383403: marked as done (linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2008-05-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 16 May 2008 15:26:02 +0200 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Re: done mission over has caused the Debian Bug report #242866, regarding linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware to be marked as done. This means that you clai

Bug#383403: marked as done (linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2008-05-15 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 15 May 2008 16:44:56 +0200 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Re: drivers containing firmware blobs has caused the Debian Bug report #242866, regarding linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware to be marked as done. This

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 07:46:56PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:07:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Maks - > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 06:05:30PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > >> > > Something about [bug #242866] seems bro

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-18 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:07:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Maks - >> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 06:05:30PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: >> > > Something about [bug #242866] seems broken, however, >> > > because RC-buggy linux-2.6 packages keep making it into >>

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 04:28:26PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:40:41 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > i will repeat as long as it takes. > > You are certainly free to do so. And experience (the hard way, rather > than just by being told) the consequences of such behaviou

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:40:41 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > i will repeat as long as it takes. You are certainly free to do so. And experience (the hard way, rather than just by being told) the consequences of such behaviour. > With some people there is no other way around, see how long and how > m

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 09:23:43AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 18, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't think the project need anymore such vulgarities, please try to stay > I do not think the project needs anymore people with no concern for the > needs of our users either.

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 12:29:56PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:35:49 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > /me still doesn't understand why you chose not to credit me though, > > You may not ever understand it. Repeating does not help. I am also slightly (or more) offended by i

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:35:49 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > It was just some way to say, please don't be so harsh on larry, who > has good intentions and actually did some work, not compared to > others. Sure. And that's great. If only you did not clutter such good intention with whining. Yes, it no

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 18, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think the project need anymore such vulgarities, please try to stay I do not think the project needs anymore people with no concern for the needs of our users either. > polite, reread the social contract, and abide by what you agreed to

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 01:12:50AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >For each offending file, there are three possible solutions: > >1. Get the author to release source code under a DFSG-free license > >2. Move the firmware to non-free, patching the driver to use > > req

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >For each offending file, there are three possible solutions: >1. Get the author to release source code under a DFSG-free license >2. Move the firmware to non-free, patching the driver to use > request_firmware() >3. Delete the driver and firmware entirely. 4. Recognize

Bug#383403: closed by maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Re: Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 12:10:40AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:54:09 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 11:43:52PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:39:00 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > > > I am dubious though that the

Bug#383403: closed by maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Re: Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 12:10:40AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:54:09 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 11:43:52PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:39:00 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > > > I am dubious though that the

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 12:21:51AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:07:09 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 12:04:51AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:09:12 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:50

Bug#383403: closed by maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Re: Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2006-08-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:54:09 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 11:43:52PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:39:00 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > I am dubious though that the wiki page can easily be modified to > > > look as nicely as the page larry pro

Bug#383403: closed by maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Re: Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2006-08-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:39:00 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > I am dubious though that the wiki page can easily be modified to look > as nicely as the page larry provided, but then i am no wiki expert, > so i will let others comment who are more wiki experts (jonas > maybe ?). Beautification of wiki do

Bug#383403: closed by maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Re: Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 11:43:52PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:39:00 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > I am dubious though that the wiki page can easily be modified to look > > as nicely as the page larry provided, but then i am no wiki expert, > > so i will let others com

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:07:09 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 12:04:51AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:09:12 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:50:33PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:00:18 +020

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 12:04:51AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:09:12 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:50:33PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:00:18 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > > > Erm, some guys tried to kick

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:09:12 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:50:33PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:00:18 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > Erm, some guys tried to kick me out of debian for showing > > > unpoliteness, so please moderate your langu

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:58:12PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:06:44PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > > enough time is lost with any of those dfsg firmware wankers, > > > that do _zero_ work upstream or on the licensing front. > > > >

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:06:44PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > enough time is lost with any of those dfsg firmware wankers, > > that do _zero_ work upstream or on the licensing front. > > I repeat my offer to patch any (well, almost any) of these > drivers to use

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:50:33PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:00:18 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > > > Erm, some guys tried to kick me out of debian for showing > > unpoliteness, so please moderate your language here. > > ...and repeating over and over and over and over,

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 01:19:33PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:06:44PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > enough time is lost with any of those dfsg firmware wankers, > > that do _zero_ work upstream or on the licensing front. > > I repeat my offer to patch any (w

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:00:18 +0200 Sven Luther wrote: > Erm, some guys tried to kick me out of debian for showing > unpoliteness, so please moderate your language here. ...and repeating over and over and over and over, like here! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread ldoolitt
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:06:44PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > enough time is lost with any of those dfsg firmware wankers, > that do _zero_ work upstream or on the licensing front. I repeat my offer to patch any (well, almost any) of these drivers to use request_firmware(). I need a volunt

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread maximilian attems
keep me out of this thread. enough time is lost with any of those dfsg firmware wankers, that do _zero_ work upstream or on the licensing front. the drivers are free not-fucking non-free. rest in peace -- maks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread ldoolitt
Kyle - On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:41:52PM -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote: > No wonder you're so *** enthusiastic about removing support for > hardware. You don't own any of it. How *** convenient. Can I deduce from this that _you_ own some of the affected hardware? If I patch in request_firmw

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:41:52PM -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote: > [Reply-To set to the list, I really don't want this idiocy in my > personal Inbox.] Kyle, this idiocy as you say it, is grounded in what we all claim and agreed to in the social contract, which is a binding document to all DDs. You

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:07:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maks - > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 06:05:30PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > > Something about [bug #242866] seems broken, however, > > > because RC-buggy linux-2.6 packages keep making it into > > > testing. Is it obvious

Bug#383403: closed by maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Re: Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2006-08-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 06:05:30PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:57:52AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > your thrown away grepping is the bad start. Maks, please don't pick up a fight with larry so quickly, this is something that you know was coming, which all the

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread Kyle McMartin
[Reply-To set to the list, I really don't want this idiocy in my personal Inbox.] On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:07:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If the kernel team decides on (2) or (3), I'd be happy to > help with the coding. (Note that, due to the unfortunate > state of upstream, most of

Re: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread maximilian attems
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:07:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > For each offending file, there are three possible solutions: > 1. Get the author to release source code under a DFSG-free license > yes that is some work so commit yourself. the rest is not the intent of the DFSG. -- maks

linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-17 Thread ldoolitt
Maks - On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 06:05:30PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote: > > Something about [bug #242866] seems broken, however, > > because RC-buggy linux-2.6 packages keep making it into > > testing. Is it obvious how to keep this from happening, > > without starting a new bug attached to lin

Bug#383403: closed by maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Re: Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2006-08-17 Thread maximilian attems
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 08:57:52AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm aware of #242866, and I'd be happy to work within > that report. Something about it seems broken, however, > because RC-buggy linux-2.6 packages keep making it into > testing. Is it obvious how to keep this from happening

Bug#383403: closed by maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Re: Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2006-08-17 Thread ldoolitt
Maks - On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 12:48:15AM -0700, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 05:17:34PM -0700, Larry Doolittle wrote: > > Package: linux-2.6 > > Severity: serious > > Justification: Policy 2.1 > > how about if you check for duplicate bug reports! > see #242866 for

Bug#383403: marked as done (linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware)

2006-08-17 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:11:58 +0200 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been

Bug#383403: linux-2.6: includes nondistributable and non-free binary firmware

2006-08-16 Thread Larry Doolittle
Package: linux-2.6 Severity: serious Justification: Policy 2.1 The following 59 files, found in Debian's linux-2.6_2.6.17.orig.tar.gz, apparently contain software in binary form, for which Debian has no corresponding source code. Debian policy states that "The program must include source code, a