Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:04:11 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How should we handle this if there was already a user set postinst_hook ? This has no chance of working, right ? Hmm. At the moment, no. So, probably, the best solution would be to do it the right way, and

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-24 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 11:00:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:04:11 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How should we handle this if there was already a user set postinst_hook ? This has no chance of working, right ? Hmm. At the moment, no.

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 10:14:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 18 Jun 2004 12:30:41 +0200, Jens Schmalzing [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Now, the question is, how do we automatically add the postinst_hook to kernel-img.conf, I don't think we are allowed to fiddle with

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 02:21:30PM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Sven Luther writes: Thanks for your input on this, Manoj. Yep. you loose the capacity of depending on a bootloader though, unless we do a quik | yaboot | mkvmlinuz | nothing kind of thing. Don't believe if

PReP support (was: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!)

2004-06-23 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: unbootable kernels on non pmac systems, Speaking of which. Anybody got a PReP system they don't need and could throw at me? As I said, I got a bunch of RS/6000 boxen recently, only to find out they're MCA. Regards, Jens. -- J'qbpbe, le m'en fquz pe j'qbpbe! Le veux

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:01:26PM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Sven Luther writes: Well, only 2.4.25 packages, which is why we should make a test for non 2.4 kernels or something such. 2.4 kernels don't have the the necessary mkvmlinuz magic to make it work anyway. You can

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-19 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: how would mkvmlinuz act if there were no vmlinux installed, but only a vmlinuz ? It exits with a non-zero exit status. Since the postinst comes from kernel-package, you need to sort this out with Manoj. Well, that would be a possibility. The other possibility

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 09:41:58AM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Sven Luther writes: how would mkvmlinuz act if there were no vmlinux installed, but only a vmlinuz ? It exits with a non-zero exit status. Which would kill dpkg, right ? Not such a good idea. Friendly, Sven Luther

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 11:10:46AM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Sven Luther writes: how would mkvmlinuz act if there were no vmlinux installed, but only a vmlinuz ? It exits with a non-zero exit status. Which would kill dpkg, right ? Have you actually tried this?

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-19 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: how would mkvmlinuz act if there were no vmlinux installed, but only a vmlinuz ? It exits with a non-zero exit status. Which would kill dpkg, right ? Have you actually tried this? If not, please do so. If it does not work as expected, try again with the

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-19 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: Please tell me what you gain by not having a depends there ? what is the benefit in _NOT_ installing it ? No cruft on the many systems where it is not needed at all. If you are really going to insist in doing it this way, i would insist that we create at least a

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-19 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: Please tell me exactly in how far you feel that this would be so much of a hindrance compared to the benefit of having kernel-image installation work out of the box on non-pmac subarches ? mkvmlinuz serves the purpose of making some systems bootable given an

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 01:02:39PM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Sven Luther writes: Please tell me exactly in how far you feel that this would be so much of a hindrance compared to the benefit of having kernel-image installation work out of the box on non-pmac subarches ?

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-19 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: i don't see how you are caring for anything [...] No, no, no, you don't understand. [...] you seem to make a fanatical issue out of it, [...] i haven't heard yet one single valable reason That about ends the discussion for me. Stop whining, implement a solution

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 12:24:03AM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Sven Luther writes: Again history repeats itself, and the new powerpc kernel packages are now held captive in the incoming queue for nearly (if not already more) than one month. All three pending revisions entered

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 09:55:34AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 12:24:03AM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Sven Luther writes: Again history repeats itself, and the new powerpc kernel packages are now held captive in the incoming queue for nearly (if not

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Dear Sven, But in general, this is something that is not acceptable, and i hope never happens again. One week is still long for this sort of things, but acceptable, but one month is definitively to long. TINC :) I will send you a USB uhci fi later today, Cool. basically, one could use

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 12:30:41PM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: The preliminary packages can be found in the usual location, deb http://www.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~jens/kernel-patch-powerpc ./ deb http://www.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~jens/mol-modules ./ Can you please split

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 12:30:41PM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Dear Sven, But in general, this is something that is not acceptable, and i hope never happens again. One week is still long for this sort of things, but acceptable, but one month is definitively to long. TINC :) I

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 12:54:13PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 12:30:41PM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: The preliminary packages can be found in the usual location, deb http://www.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~jens/kernel-patch-powerpc ./ deb

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 01:11:20PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 01:14:13PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Sven, any updates on talking to upstream about the pegasos changes? ... it could be in upstream. I don't like the via-ide hack not being included, it makes

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 01:25:49PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: I don't care at all how it's implemented in detail. I already mentioned dpatch previous and cdbs and quilt. I want a way to get a kernel-source package that uses split patches and otherwise is as little as possible different

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 04:02:25PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: http://verein.lst.de/~hch/debian-2.6.7.tgz Ok, i will see if i can make a package of it, but i would appreciate if someone else review it before upload. Also, who is working on the repository thingy ? Do we already have a

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 04:22:40PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 04:02:25PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: http://verein.lst.de/~hch/debian-2.6.7.tgz Ok, i will see if i can make a package of it, but i would appreciate if someone else review it before upload.

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:14:16PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Once that is done, the second step would be the creation of a subversion or arch repo. If someone, like Manoj, feels like using arch would be better, please create the initial repo, as well as some newbie instructions on how to use

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Christoph Hellwig
[Jens, did that mail not go to the list?] On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:16:21PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: 1. kernel-source-2.6.7 should not be built as a Debian-native package, mainly because this will generate a huge tarball for every Debian revision. Seconded 2. It would be nice if

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: Ok, i will see if i can make a package of it, but i would appreciate if someone else review it before upload. Just my 2 cents on this: 1. kernel-source-2.6.7 should not be built as a Debian-native package, mainly because this will generate a huge tarball for every

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:16:48PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:14:16PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Once that is done, the second step would be the creation of a subversion or arch repo. If someone, like Manoj, feels like using arch would be better, please create

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:19:25PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: [Jens, did that mail not go to the list?] On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:16:21PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: 1. kernel-source-2.6.7 should not be built as a Debian-native package, mainly because this will generate a huge

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:34:19PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, will do. But will the patches apply cleanly to a full tarball ? I don't believe so. All but the tg3 patch. But we can leeave that one out for now.

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:28:21PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:34:19PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, will do. But will the patches apply cleanly to a full tarball ? I don't believe so. All but the tg3 patch. But we can leeave that one out for now. Ok. Now,

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:43:48PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:28:21PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:34:19PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, will do. But will the patches apply cleanly to a full tarball ? I don't believe so. All but

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Christoph Hellwig writes: [Jens, did that mail not go to the list?] It did, probably some mailer on the way is taking a break. I'll cook up the script. Give me a little time - for now you can work with a full tarball. Yep. The vanilla source is perfectly good for testing, as long as

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 05:43:36PM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Dear Sven, Ok, i have written such a one, well it is fairly basic, and does : #!/bin/sh mkvmlinuz -k $2 -o /boot/vmlinuz-$1 The existing mkvmlinuz can do this if you put the line /boot/vmlinuz-$release in

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Dear Sven, Ok, will do. But will the patches apply cleanly to a full tarball ? I don't believe so. The only thing you need to remove is drivers/net/tg3.c . Regards, Jens. -- J'qbpbe, le m'en fquz pe j'qbpbe! Le veux aimeb et mqubib panz je pézqbpbe je djuz tqtaj!

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Dear Sven, Ok, i have written such a one, well it is fairly basic, and does : #!/bin/sh mkvmlinuz -k $2 -o /boot/vmlinuz-$1 The existing mkvmlinuz can do this if you put the line /boot/vmlinuz-$release in /etc/mkvmlinuz/output . We could also deduce the locations of the compressed image

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 01:21:49PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 01:25:49PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: I don't care at all how it's implemented in detail. I already mentioned dpatch previous and cdbs and quilt. I want a way to get a kernel-source package that

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 07:41:37PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 07:44:46PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, i am giving dpatchification a first attempt. The complicated part would be to add the proper attribution and description to each .dpatch file. I will leave

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 10:28:50PM +0200, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Sven Luther writes: The existing mkvmlinuz can do this if you put the line /boot/vmlinuz-$release in /etc/mkvmlinuz/output . Well, it doesn't cost much by setting it by hand, Yes. unless we want to set

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: The existing mkvmlinuz can do this if you put the line /boot/vmlinuz-$release in /etc/mkvmlinuz/output . Well, it doesn't cost much by setting it by hand, Yes. unless we want to set /etc/mkvmlinuz/output to it by default. There are packages that contain

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-18 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: Well, only 2.4.25 packages, which is why we should make a test for non 2.4 kernels or something such. 2.4 kernels don't have the the necessary mkvmlinuz magic to make it work anyway. You can easily use mkvmlinuz on a 2.4 kernel and initrd with the magic from any of

powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-17 Thread Sven Luther
Hello, Again history repeats itself, and the new powerpc kernel packages are now held captive in the incoming queue for nearly (if not already more) than one month. And the excuse for it is a bug in the autobuilders for which a hacky workaround was already included in 2.6.6-5 more than 3 weeks

Re: powerpc kernel-patch 2.6.6-5 in incoming since over a month !!!

2004-06-17 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Sven Luther writes: Again history repeats itself, and the new powerpc kernel packages are now held captive in the incoming queue for nearly (if not already more) than one month. All three pending revisions entered unstable this morning. Ironically, I got the message just after kicking