Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread Bruce Perens
> From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > USC Title 17, Ch.1, Sec. 101, Definitions > > A ''derivative work'' is a work based upon one or more preexisting > works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, > fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art > reproduc

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread John Hasler
Maury Markowitz writes: > if I have written concent from the authors in question to build a GUI > shell is that OK regardless of the vagrity of the license in this regard? Yes, of course. > And who _are_ the authors in the case of GPL'ed code? Who are the authors of any code? The terms of the l

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 11-Jun-99, 14:03 (CDT), Maury Markowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm still a little curious about it though. I assume that writing > a shell script that calls GPL'ed code is OK, right? Even if that > shell script is not made public? I can see no difference between a > GUI shell a

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread John Hasler
Bruce Perens writes: > The GPL doesn't define guidelines for what is a derived product and what is > not. It doesn't need to. The law already does: USC Title 17, Ch.1, Sec. 101, Definitions A ''derivative work'' is a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translat

Re: GPL: what does redistribution mean?

1999-06-11 Thread Kyle Rose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Even further, if the group (Foo Bar et al) publishes a paper for > which the modified program was used, can I demand the changes to be > published, based on the fact I would have evidence (because of the > "et al") the program was redistributed? (I a

Re: tipa-type1: checking for DSFG compliance

1999-06-11 Thread Bruce Perens
He means well but needs a bit of license education. He should reproduce the metafont license in a file in his font distribution, he should note that the font is under the metafont license, and he should add that the _modifications_ he has made are donated to the public domain. Thanks

GPL: what does redistribution mean?

1999-06-11 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, I've been meaning to ask this for quite a while, but I haven't found the time to sit down and actually write something. As part of my research, I'm writing a program that I think will be useful to other people in the astronomical/astrophysical community. I want to license this progra

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread Maury Markowitz
Lots of excellent info, thanks everyone. So far the basic answer appears to be "no one knows, because the definition of derived is too vague". I'm still a little curious about it though. I assume that writing a shell script that calls GPL'ed code is OK, right? Even if that shell scr

tipa-type1: checking for DSFG compliance

1999-06-11 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
I am packaging the PS type 1 fonts for TIPA. They are distributed along with the README file below. The author mentions "public domain" but he "feels" something about the Metafont license. I think that the licensing conditions are DFSG compliant. Could someone please confirm it? (Cc: to me, a

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread Bruce Perens
The GPL doesn't define guidelines for what is a derived product and what is not. Consider the problem of CORBA. It makes it possible to use a library that is not tied into your application, and is not in your address space, as if it were a static or shared library. I'm hoping that GPL 3 will have

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread John Hasler
Steve Greenland writes: > Really? If I write a GUI that uses dpkg *only* via > 'system("dpkg --command arg");' > that would be a derived work? I would say no. RMS disagrees. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 00:22:37 -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > Really? If I write a GUI that uses dpkg *only* via > > 'system("dpkg --command arg");' > > that would be a derived work? A similar discussion comes up on gnu.misc.discuss regularly regarding linking against a GPLed library like re

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Jun-99, 21:39 (CDT), Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Maury Markowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If YoyoDyne wants to put a GUI wrapper around the dpkg, what then? > > Does making a GUI wrapper for the product become a case of > > "incorporating" it into a propietary system?

Re: Question about licensing

1999-06-11 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Maury Markowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm curious about using GPL'ed software in a supporting role for > non-GLP software. Let's say YoyoDyne takes the Debian installer > verbatum and uses it to install the next version of their propietary > InternetDestructor 5.x. Is this legally acce