Re: is this free?

1999-11-26 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 11:56:57AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: You are free to mix the code with other code, though. All DFSG free licenses allow modification, which is exactly that. The only licenses which allows you to freely mix the code with any other code regardless of license are the

Re: is this free?

1999-11-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 26, 1999 at 08:32:28AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 11:56:57AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: You are free to mix the code with other code, though. All DFSG free ^^^ Note the lack of the word `any'. :) The DFSG doesn't

Re: is this free?

1999-11-26 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 11:00:45PM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 11:56:57AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 09:03:32PM +0100, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote: What i thought was : - if im not free to mix the code with other code it is not fully

Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
It's time for us to bring suit against Corel for this can't download unless you're 18 stuff. That's not in our license and they know it. I've tried to help them several times, and they continue to be 100% clueless. I think at this point they are not representing Debian well, and should not

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Bruce, Strange that you see this `End User License Agrrement' page if youclick on their own download page, but if if you click on the middle icon to take you to ftp://ftp.linuxberg.com/pub/distributions/Corel/ or the left button to CNET download. They are clueless, but are you serious about a

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Peter S Galbraith
I wrote: They are clueless, but are you serious about a lawsuit? but I did just dropped them a note: From: Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Free Download End User License Agreement Hello, http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/eula.htm says:

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Debian GNU/Linux distribution (and the GPL) on which Corel Linux is based has no such requirements (that the end user be 18 years of age). Therefore Corel is itself BREAKING the license that allows them to modidy and redistribute GPLed

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strange that you see this `End User License Agrrement' page if youclick on their own download page, but if if you click on the middle icon to take you to ftp://ftp.linuxberg.com/pub/distributions/Corel/ or the left button to CNET download. They are

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I feel like an idiot of course. Not your fault. Bruce

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Peter S Galbraith
I agree 100% with you. I hope your email helped you vent instead of making it worse. Bruce Perens wrote: I am trying to explain to them that they are distributing somebody else's software, and they keep unintentionally, and with no malice involved, pissing off the very people who wrote

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps if they got email from 100 different @debian.org adresses? Not yet. Then she should be fired. We should email her boss. Well, maybe she should get a somewhat stronger message from others at Corel. I wouldn't be nearly so frustrated about

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Craig Brozefsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: Perhaps not _this_ time, but I am throwing up my hands because I have no way to keep them from doing something much more clueless next time and then a suit may indeed be necessary. Your work is appreciated, and your frustration understandable. A lot

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Craig Brozefsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps we should draft a list of all developers who are minors, Just wait a few days before you do that. And please, folks, delete those messages that I mistakenly sent to the list. Thanks Bruce

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: It's time for us to bring suit against Corel for this can't download unless you're 18 stuff. That's not in our license and they know it. I've tried to help them several times, and they continue to be 100% clueless. I think at this point they are not

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Fri, Nov 26, 1999 at 10:09:00AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: It's time for us to bring suit against Corel for this can't download unless you're 18 stuff. That's not in our license and they know it. I've tried to help them several times, and they continue to be 100% clueless. I think at this

Apology to Corel

1999-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
I think I'd better apologize to Corel. I'm frustrated because I've tried to smooth problems with them out twice before, but I should not have suggested a lawsuit so soon, and as soon as the message was sent to a Debian mailing list, it was posted on slashdot (by someone who didn't contact me) and

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
If they had phrased it as an FTP-site usage agreement, I would have had no problem with it. Bruce

Re: Corel Lawsuit

1999-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe you should post something to that effect on slashdot to calm the flames a little? I did.