Hi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
[ the experts for this kind of stuff can be found on
debian-legal@lists.debian.org, thus I CC there ]
About month ago one of the local fiscal office in Poland has laid
a tax on some company in Poland which uses Linux servers and
StarOffice apllications. This
About month ago one of the local fiscal office in Poland has laid
a tax on some company in Poland which uses Linux servers and
StarOffice apllications. This information appeared in the past week
in Polish edition of Computerworld. AND THIS IS NOT A JOKE.
The fiscal office has treated GNU
Nils Lohner wrote:
This is a message that was sent to the debian-devel mailing list, and I'm
sure there will be followup discussions on the debian-legal mailing list.
If people have any ideas or comments, I'm sure they'd be appreciated. I'll
try to find a URL for the information as well if
continue to feel that this is in error, please send us a
self-addressed stamped envelope and we will send you an
official bill for $0 (US).
Official bill for $0 will be not accepted in Poland.
It must be 0.
Exactly THAT was the problem in beforementioned(duh? is there such word
There was 0zl position in their financial books for linux system
(red-hat I think) and staroffice suite.
And that 0zl position became a problem.
On polish isp-* lists this incident was at first ignored, but now it seems
that it's getting pretty damn serious.
In case of Debian distro this is
*you do not have to ask or pay for permission*.
you don't understand the problem? when we could pay for linux it would
cost us less then not paying and paying government taxes for $0 bills.
This is not a legal problem to debian nor FSF, but it is a problem because
it'll scare people away from
How about GNU issuing an optional bill licensing all use in
Poland for $10. US of course ;^)
Are you kidding?
You want to ask for an optional bill licensing?
The GPL says:
A program is free software if users have all of these freedoms.
Thus, you should be free to redistribute copies,
There was 0zl position in their financial books for linux system
(red-hat I think) and staroffice suite.
Probably they should not have mentioned it in their financial books
if it is not a physical item and they didn't pay for it. I mean, do
they put sunlight and gravity in their financial
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I has consulted it with financial guys.
A donation is an income simply. So you have to pay taxi.
This is stange. Around here, commercial businesses do not
pay tax of their *income* - the pay tax of their *profit*.
Thus if the donation of free software has any tax
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 04:45:51PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
err. debian CDs have a known market value, don't they? why not buy a
debian CD for $2 or whatever they cost these days?
add in the 30% tax and that's a total of $2.60 + postage.
remember to keep the purchase receipt :)
On Monday 13 November 2000 23:16, Craig Sanders wrote:
you will have a receipt for a software CD called Debian GNU/Linux.
that's what it cost you to buy it, including the cost of materials and
the cost of the license.
I don't think it includes a cost of license. In few mails before I have
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 11:29:54PM +0100, Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
On Monday 13 November 2000 23:16, Craig Sanders wrote:
you will have a receipt for a software CD called Debian GNU/Linux.
that's what it cost you to buy it, including the cost of materials and
the cost of the license.
I
On Monday 13 November 2000 23:54, Craig Sanders wrote:
sure it does. the monetary cost of the license is zero dollars, which is
clearly included in the price you paid for the CD.
And this is a problem. Zero dollars as a cost of any license are not
acceptable by tax offices.
fair enough. but
On Tuesday 14 November 2000 00:26, Craig Sanders wrote:
so don't list it. just list Debian CD$2. you don't need to
list the free license any more than you need to list Air$0,
Sunlight$0, Birdsong.$0, or even Traffic Noise$0.
And many Polish companies doing it now but one of
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 10:26:48AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 12:20:25AM +0100, Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
On Monday 13 November 2000 23:54, Craig Sanders wrote:
sure it does. the monetary cost of the license is zero dollars, which is
clearly included in the price
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