Some questions

2001-03-29 Thread Bernhard R. Link
As I do not know, how the No Discrimination-parts of the DFSG are interpreted, I wanted to ask about the Jabber Open Source Licence (http://www.opensource.org/licenses/jabberpl.html), escpecially about 9b) of it: Termination Upon Assertion of Patent Infringement. If you initiate litigation by

Re: License question about prag

2001-03-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) Source code for the entire package must be distributed with any derived work incorporating ANY part of PRAG. is a little vague though. Does he mean that I can not take a .c file and place it in another work? What he presumably means

Re: Some questions

2001-03-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Termination Upon Assertion of Patent Infringement. If you initiate | litigation by asserting a patent infringement claim ... alleging | that Licensed Product ... infringes any patent, then any and all | rights ... shall terminate. I think common

Re: diablo license

2001-03-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 29, Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems pretty clear to me that it is not DFSG-free. A DFSG program needs to be usable on any operating system without discrimination, and this license says you can use it on Linux without worrying, but if you merely bundle it with,

Re: diablo license

2001-03-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5. When this software or any work derived from this software is used in a commercial product or bundled with a commercial product, the vendor must also produce the program this software is derived from for either the Linux or FreeBSD operating

Re: Some questions

2001-03-29 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But it might also be argued that making exceptions even for software patenteers and child pornographers is a slippery slope which we should stay away from. What does discriminate mean, anyway? I think usually it means making an arbitrary or unnecessary

Re: diablo license

2001-03-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mar 29, Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems pretty clear to me that it is not DFSG-free. A DFSG program needs to be usable on any operating system without discrimination, and this license says you can use it on Linux without

copyright question

2001-03-29 Thread Jörgen Hägg
This copyright notice seems free enough, as I can see they don't want any responsibility but do want credit for their work. Fair enough I think. :-) Is this ok for Debian? /* * Copyright 1992 Purdue Research Foundation, West Lafayette, Indiana * 47907. All rights reserved. * * Written by

more copyright issues

2001-03-29 Thread Jörgen Hägg
Going thru the files I found more copyright notices, the files have different copyrights (sorry for the wasted bandwith). It seems as if the code has been modified/written both at Purdue and Ohio State. Can this be accepted as free (for Debian)? Copyright (c) 1990 The Ohio State University. All

Re: more copyright issues

2001-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:01:57PM +0200, Jörgen Hägg wrote: Going thru the files I found more copyright notices, the files have different copyrights (sorry for the wasted bandwith). It seems as if the code has been modified/written both at Purdue and Ohio State. Can this be accepted as

Re: more copyright issues

2001-03-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Jörgen Hägg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Going thru the files I found more copyright notices, the files have different copyrights (sorry for the wasted bandwith). It seems as if the code has been modified/written both at Purdue and Ohio State. Can this be accepted as free (for Debian)? This

Re: copyright question

2001-03-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jörgen Hägg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this ok for Debian? Yes. -- Henning MakholmDe er da bare dumme. Det skal du bare sige til dem.

Re: more copyright issues

2001-03-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jörgen Hägg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can this be accepted as free (for Debian)? Yes, it's basically a BSD licence. We usually tacitly ignore the advertising clauses... -- Henning Makholm Nobody is going to start shouting about

Re: copyright question

2001-03-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Unfortunately, it lacks permission to distribute modified copies ... and to alter it and distribute it freely? -- Henning Makholm Hele toget raslede imens Sjælland fór forbi.

Re: copyright question

2001-03-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Unfortunately, it lacks permission to distribute modified copies ... and to alter it and distribute it freely? While all logic and reason might say that is good enough, it at least one notable

Re: more copyright issues

2001-03-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Still smarting from the University of Washington, eh? :-( You betcha.

Re: more copyright issues

2001-03-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit Jörgen Hägg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can this be accepted as free (for Debian)? Yes, it's basically a BSD licence. We usually tacitly ignore the advertising clauses... The advertising clause is usually thought not to be enforceable in the

The date? [more copyright issues]

2001-03-29 Thread Joergen Haegg
I assume if these copyrights appear in the same source file, then they must all be followed? Haven't quite understod the importance of the date. These copyrights (and there are actually a few more without explicit copyright which I'm trying to locate) have different dates. How does the date

Re: The date? [more copyright issues]

2001-03-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Joergen Haegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I assume if these copyrights appear in the same source file, then they must all be followed? Haven't quite understod the importance of the date. These copyrights (and there are actually a few more without explicit copyright which I'm trying to

Re: The date? [more copyright issues]

2001-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:20:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: The date is irrelevant. It just defines when the copyright expires. Well, except in the United States, where copyrights never expire. :-P -- G. Branden Robinson | You don't just decide to break Kubrick's