Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I share your hope, but I cannot help noticing that the number of > available scalable fonts is currently the greatest weakness of the > Free Software and Open Source community (communities?). However, adding these fonts did nothing to help the prob

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:43:10PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > Branden Robinson: > > BR> There are lots of ways to preserve artistic integrity. It's > BR> perfectly compatible with the DFSG to, for instance, require that > BR> modified versions change the name of the relevant > BR> (font|e

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Branden Robinson: BR> There are lots of ways to preserve artistic integrity. It's BR> perfectly compatible with the DFSG to, for instance, require that BR> modified versions change the name of the relevant BR> (font|executable|data file), to include a disclaimer in the BR> copyright info about th

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
DS> Does it cover Latin-3? Yes, they do. DS> If it doesn't, then there's a number of characters that could be DS> added in minutes with the right tools to provide for support of DS> Esperanto, Maltese and other languages, but we can't, because of DS> the license. We share your concern, and we di

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread James Troup
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 12:18:46PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > While the issues on unmodifiable non-software stuff in Debian are > > not as clear-cut as Branden has made them out to be (I know of at > > least a half dozen packages in main that are

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 12:18:46PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > While the issues on unmodifiable non-software stuff in Debian are > not as clear-cut as Branden has made them out to be (I know of at > least a half dozen packages in main that are unmodifiable, that were > put there knowing that) Wh

Re: Is Scilab DSFG free, now ?

2001-04-03 Thread Jeffry Smith
non-free. > The INRIA and the ENPC authorize you free of charge to circulate > and distribute for no charge, for non-commercial purposes the source > and/or object code of DERIVED SOFTWARE on any present and future > support, providi

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:53:52PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > As you can imagine, the inclusion of the Lucidux fonts into the > XFree86 source tree didn't go without a fair amount of hesitation. It's not my intent to imply that XFree86's decision was either incorrect, or flawed in process.

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:53:52PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > We concluded that the main reason why we insist on the right to modify > software is the need to maintain it. After carefully checking the > technical, as opposed to artistic, quality of the Lucidux fonts (it is > excellent, tha

Re: Is Scilab DSFG free, now ?

2001-04-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Martin Quinson wrote: > A new version of Scilab (a matlab-like program) is out, and they claim this > version to be free. (for now, it is in the non-free part of debian) > > http://www-rocq.inria.fr/scilab/license.txt > > I would like to have your input on the DFSG complience of this > licence.

Is Scilab DSFG free, now ?

2001-04-03 Thread Martin Quinson
Hello, A new version of Scilab (a matlab-like program) is out, and they claim this version to be free. (for now, it is in the non-free part of debian) Extract from the announcement: | Others improvements | --- | A more explicit "free licence". It is no longer required to send bac

Re: DFSG and fonts [was: Bug#91856: Hello]

2001-04-03 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Me (Juliusz Chroboczek): JC> I think we need the DFSG to explicitly provide an exception for JC> fonts and artwork. Branden Robinson: BR> I disagree. To do so would introduce far too much gray area, in my BR> opinion, and get Debian involved in even more licensing flamewars than we BR> currentl

Re: [WARNING] DO NOT _EVER_ SEND CODE VIA HOTMAIL

2001-04-03 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Jeffry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As I point out below, the legal question is whether or not MS has any > claim to copyrighted materials NOT authored by the person using the > service. You mean, if someone, without Sun's permission, sends the Solaris source code to a hotmail address, does Mi

Re: [WARNING] DO NOT _EVER_ SEND CODE VIA HOTMAIL

2001-04-03 Thread Jeffry Smith
Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS said: > Aaron Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > The problem? In a nutshell, any outgoing information, software > > and/or services of your original copyright/license/IP are "dual > > copyrighted/licensed" to Microsoft c/o this new agreement. This can > > be _very_dangerous

Re: [WARNING] DO NOT _EVER_ SEND CODE VIA HOTMAIL

2001-04-03 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:20:21AM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: > Why? If someone who is contributing to a free software project wants, > for whatever reason, to dual licence their code to Microsoft, you > can't really stop them from doing so. If you insist that all > contributors give an exc

Re: [WARNING] DO NOT _EVER_ SEND CODE VIA HOTMAIL

2001-04-03 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Aaron Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The problem? In a nutshell, any outgoing information, software > and/or services of your original copyright/license/IP are "dual > copyrighted/licensed" to Microsoft c/o this new agreement. This can > be _very_dangerous_ from the standpoint of free software >

Re: Libapache-mod-backhand: load balancing Apache requests.

2001-04-03 Thread Sam TH
On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 10:28:55PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I missed the "with or without modification" in the header, so thought this > > clause was the only thing granting permission for derived works. Had that > > been the case, DFSG 3 wo

Re: Libapache-mod-backhand: load balancing Apache requests.

2001-04-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I missed the "with or without modification" in the header, so thought this > clause was the only thing granting permission for derived works. Had that > been the case, DFSG 3 would be the controlling consideration and fail. > But the permission for derivate