Re: The old DFSG-lemma again...

2001-11-07 Thread Richard Stallman
> I think "scour" is too strong a word. The invariant sections have to > be listed in the notice that says the work is under the GFDL. Yes, but again, you're relying on the honor system and hoping authors will be principled. That is always true, for any license. I explained that

Re: The old DFSG-lemma again...

2001-11-07 Thread Richard Stallman
I see no harm in your idea for /usr/share/doc//copyright, but trying to exclude such material from elsewhere would cause big problems between Debian and GNU. I will urge Debian most strongly not to adopt this policy.

Re: Debian's own stuff and the DFSG...

2001-11-07 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +, Sunnanvind wrote: > When I read the usage terms for the Open Use Logo, it seems to me that a > part of it "may be used to refer to Debian" (and no explicit permission > given for ANY other usage) could be interpreted as breaking DFSG > 8, "License can't

Re: Debian's own stuff and the DFSG...

2001-11-07 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +, Sunnanvind wrote: > I don't see any reason why Debian should strip out parts of GNU manuals > that are about their political stance or about "Funding free software" > and things like that. Still, I interpret DFSG 3 as if it > said "modification of _any_

Debian's own stuff and the DFSG...

2001-11-07 Thread Sunnanvind
When I read the usage terms for the Open Use Logo, it seems to me that a part of it "may be used to refer to Debian" (and no explicit permission given for ANY other usage) could be interpreted as breaking DFSG 8, "License can't be specific to Debian". If that's a long shot, it's relation to DFS

Re: The old DFSG-lemma again...

2001-11-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:06:38AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: [...] > Which of these is a problem with DFSG? Or have I missed something? Where did I say they were? -- G. Branden Robinson| If God had intended for man to go Debian GNU/Linux | about naked,

Re: Bug#118427: TP: epo -- Miner mode to reduce the labour to edit code

2001-11-07 Thread Raul Miller
> > "Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Raul> Look at the situation this way: the GPL restricts the > Raul> distribution of emacs, not that of independently written > Raul> code. The question asked was whether it was legal to > Raul> distribute some non-gpled el

Re: The old DFSG-lemma again...

2001-11-07 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:19:20AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > The restrictions that come into force under the GNU FDL in the "Copying > in Quantity" section, and the restrictions that are always in force for > "standard (paper) book form" under the OPL look very, very similar to > me. copyin

Re: The old DFSG-lemma again...

2001-11-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:27:23PM -0700, Richard Stallman wrote: > Not quite--because you have to check that it really IS licensed > properly and clearly under the GPL. Sometimes the developer *says* > this, but when you scan the source files, you see one of them was > copied from another package

Re: The old DFSG-lemma again...

2001-11-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 05:55:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > But I think this means that we should reconsider the standard you're > proposing. > > I don't think there is anything inimical to the notion that author's > works should be preserved intact; at least, nothing contrary to free