Re: South African Law on Crypto Providers

2002-10-03 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 21:20, Lukas Geyer wrote: The South African government passed a law (apparently two month ago) which requires all crypto providers to register with the government for some fee. The law can be found under http://co.za/ect/a25-02.pdf (this is ridiculously large, seems to be

Re: Bug#143063 acknowledged by developer (Bug#143063: fixed in mmix 1:0.0.20020615-3)

2002-10-03 Thread Julian Gilbey
reopen 143063 thanks On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 12:18:16PM -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report #143063: mmix-src: why in non-free?, which was filed against the mmix-src package. It has been closed by one of the developers, namely

Re: South African Law on Crypto Providers

2002-10-03 Thread Matt Black
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 21:20, Lukas Geyer wrote: The South African government passed a law (apparently two month ago) which requires all crypto providers to register with the government for some fee. The law can be found under http://co.za/ect/a25-02.pdf (this is ridiculously large, seems to be

Re: Bug#143063 acknowledged by developer (Bug#143063: fixed in mmix 1:0.0.20020615-3)

2002-10-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for adopting the package. However, I really do not understand how it conflicts with point four: DFSG point four: 4. Integrity of The Author's Source Code The license may restrict source-code from being distributed in modified

Re: South African Law on Crypto Providers

2002-10-03 Thread Joe Moore
Jeff Licquia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (quoting the relevant law) There is a definitions section, in which we find: - cryptography product means any product that makes use of cryptographic techniques and is used by a sender or recipient of data messages for the purposes of ensuring--

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Re: South African Law on Crypto Providers

2002-10-03 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 09:30, Joe Moore wrote: Jeff Licquia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (quoting the relevant law) There is a definitions section, in which we find: - cryptography product means any product that makes use of cryptographic techniques and is used by a sender or recipient

Re: Bug#143063 acknowledged by developer (Bug#143063: fixed in mmix 1:0.0.20020615-3)

2002-10-03 Thread Jeff Licquia
(Sorry for the massive CCs; please let me know if you read the list and don't want more.) On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 08:18, Peter S Galbraith wrote: It has been argued (during the LaTeX license debate) that the license may require derived works to carry a different name refers to the software or

Re: Bug#143063 acknowledged by developer (Bug#143063: fixed in mmix 1:0.0.20020615-3)

2002-10-03 Thread Brian Sniffen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now the mmix license (from boilerplate.w, minus markup): (c) 1999 Donald E. Knuth This file may be freely copied and distributed, provided that no changes whatsoever are made. This allows unmodified distribution. All users

Re: Bug#143063 acknowledged by developer (Bug#143063: fixed in mmix 1:0.0.20020615-3)

2002-10-03 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 09:18:14AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for adopting the package. However, I really do not understand how it conflicts with point four: DFSG point four: 4. Integrity of The Author's Source Code

Re: Bug#143063 acknowledged by developer (Bug#143063: fixed in mmix 1:0.0.20020615-3)

2002-10-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Furthermore, mmix agrees with (at least one reading of) point four both in letter and spirit: the source cannot be distributed in a modified form without changing filenames, but change (patch) files are permitted; in fact, a mechanism for using them is

Re: Bug#143063 acknowledged by developer (Bug#143063: fixed in mmix 1:0.0.20020615-3)

2002-10-03 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 10:06:00PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Furthermore, mmix agrees with (at least one reading of) point four both in letter and spirit: the source cannot be distributed in a modified form without changing filenames, but

Re: cdrdao license issues show that cdrtools package is non DFSG, too?

2002-10-03 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 09:35:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:02:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 07:39:17PM -0400, Brian Ristuccia wrote: [libecc/edc is non-free] Actually, the author offered to relicense the problem code under the GPL for

Re: cdrdao license issues show that cdrtools package is non DFSG, too?

2002-10-03 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 10:37:08PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 09:35:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: [libecc/edc is non-free] In the meantime, the packages that include this code need to be moved out of main. What is the best way to do this? Bugreport

Re: Bug#143063 acknowledged by developer (Bug#143063: fixed in mmix 1:0.0.20020615-3)

2002-10-03 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:34:06PM -0400, Brian Sniffen wrote: Changes are permissible only if the modified file is given a new name, different from the names of existing files in the MMIXware package, and only if the modified file is clearly identified as not being part of

Re: South African Law on Crypto Providers

2002-10-03 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 08:30:34AM -0600, Joe Moore wrote: Jeff Licquia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (quoting the relevant law) There is a definitions section, in which we find: - cryptography product means any product that makes use of cryptographic techniques and is used by a sender

Re: cdrdao license issues show that cdrtools package is non DFSG, too?

2002-10-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] cdrecord has this: |- | This software is under GPL with the following limitations: | - You may not modify certain copyright messages in cdrecord.c | See cdrecord.c for further information. That appears to

Re: cdrdao license issues show that cdrtools package is non DFSG, too?

2002-10-03 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:04:11PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: | This software is under GPL with the following limitations: This alone reminds me of this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200205/msg00062.html In short (as I understand it), placing software under the GPL

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Re: cdrdao license issues show that cdrtools package is non DFSG, too?

2002-10-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 06:48:31PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: In short (as I understand it), placing software under the GPL with additional restrictions simply doesn't work. It does, if you dual-license it. If you don't, then in general you've got software without a license. -- G. Branden