Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 11:07:27PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > MEANWHILE: The Danish communications engineer Dennis Damm realizes > that efficient polynomial factorization can be used for an elegant > analysis of network choke points. He quickly writes a prototype > iplementation in AngstRom w

Re: w-agora license

2002-12-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Christian Surchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --- > The w-agora license >Copyright (c) 2000 Marc Druilhe. All rights reserved. >

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:57:17AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: >> So that there is no way to evade the GPL by doing things that >> happen to be individually OK, and in sum, just happen to get around >> the license. They only way to do this is i

Re: EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >As for relevance to Debian, can one assume that the GPL absolutely > >guarantees > >DFSG free? (As I'm pretty sure the DFSG *does* guarantee me this > >right). > > No. Patents can get in your way. We have GPL software (e.g., > gimp-nonfree, due to Uni

Re: EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 02:56 AM, Glenn Maynard wrote: The GPL doesn't remove my right to sign a contract promising not to do something, and I believe this is a commonplace and legitimate--if annoying--practice that the GPL supports: companies can have employees sign NDAs, preventing

Re: License of honeyd

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm ok with 1, 2 and 4. But 3 (and advertisement clause) I'm not > sure about. I've searched the list but havent't found any > information on wether advertisement clauses are ok or not. The > latest license mentioning an advertisement c

Re: License of honeyd

2002-12-17 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 02:15:49PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > I was thinking on packaging honeyd [1] a small daemon to simulate servers > and create a virtual honeynet. I'm, however, not completely sure the license > is DFSG-free. > [ Old 4-clause BSD license ] > > I'm ok with

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:57:17AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) > > > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > What must I say to communicate the message that the case you describe > > > > here is the *non-interesting* one? >

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-17 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Simon Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 07:01:07PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 09:23, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > OT, but I'm sure most people first pick gnuplot because they think it is > > > the GNU tool for the job. It's too bad that it capit

w-agora license

2002-12-17 Thread Christian Surchi
[CCs are welcome] What about the license for w.agora? http://www.w-agora.com/en/license.php --- The w-agora license Copyright (c) 2000 Marc Druilhe. All rights reserved.

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-17 Thread Boris Veytsman
Sorry for replying to myself, but the following from the FAQ: > > Gnuplot is freeware in the sense that you don't have to pay for > it. However it is not freeware in the sense that you would be > allowed to distribute a modified version of your gnuplot > freely. Please read and ac

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-17 Thread Boris Veytsman
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) > Date: 16 Dec 2002 22:08:07 -0800 > > I'm uncertain how gnuplot got its name...anyone know? > http://www.gnuplot.info/faq/ 1.2 How did it come about and why is it called gnuplot? The authors of gnuplot are: Thomas Williams, Colin Kell

License of honeyd

2002-12-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
I was thinking on packaging honeyd [1] a small daemon to simulate servers and create a virtual honeynet. I'm, however, not completely sure the license is DFSG-free. License follows: /* * Copyright 2002 Niels Provos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in sourc

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) > > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > What must I say to communicate the message that the case you describe > > > here is the *non-interesting* one? > > > Well, it's the one that mat

Re: EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:01:52PM -0800, Terry Hancock wrote: > Does section 6 guarantee that the usage right is kept, or is it somehow > guaranteed in law, or is there another section which addresses this (I've > looked of course, but didn't see anything that seems to do it). Hmm. Thinking ab

Re: EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 02:01 AM, Terry Hancock wrote: Does the GPL as written (Vers. 2) allow a distributor of a modified software to impose a *use* restriction on users? At first, I thought, "No way!", but I see the other guy's point ... Iff the law were to allow such restrict

EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Terry Hancock
This came up in a local LUG ML I participate in ( http://www.sgvlug.org ) recently: Does the GPL as written (Vers. 2) allow a distributor of a modified software to impose a *use* restriction on users? At first, I thought, "No way!", but I see the other guy's point ... Section 0, says in part:

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What must I say to communicate the message that the case you describe > > here is the *non-interesting* one? > Well, it's the one that matters. You want to rephrase it, and yet the > phrasing matte

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not sure whether or not you disagree with me. Was it that hard to > tell that my original "different people" scenario was meant as a > situation where each of the things that each of the parties do is > something they do because it makes sense in i

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) > > > What matters is if it's part of a total pattern: if so, then anyone > > who intended it to be part of such a total pattern is infringing, > > even if their piece, in isolation, would not be. > >

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The earliest copyright date in any of the gnuplot 3.7.1 source files > is 1986; gnuplot 1.0.3 was relased November 16/17 that year in a series > of postings to net.sources. Ah yes, you're right. I was confusing it with gnutar, which was named for Joh