export restrictions

2003-02-03 Thread Antoine Mathys
Hello, I am interested in packaging nqthm, a public version of the Boyer-Moore theorem prover. It is distributed under the GPL. However, it has the export restriction quoted at the end. Is it possible to distribute it ? If it is, should the interested users living in the listed countries be

academic software without licence

2003-02-03 Thread Antoine Mathys
Hello, What exactly must be done when trying to package an academic piece of software, which typically has no copyright but mentions such as : - The program is provided as is. There is no warranty. - may be used without restriction - available to everyone, with no restrictions (and

Re: export restrictions

2003-02-03 Thread Antoine Mathys
Under U. S. law, Nqthm-1992 may be legally exported from the U. S. to any country except as follows: But of course, it would create a problem for US Debian mirrors, which probably couldn't carry it. I had heard that Debian was considering eliminating Non-US, but this suggests there's

Re: export restrictions

2003-02-03 Thread Sam Hartman
I think that software that falls under the definition of publically available--I can go dig up a citation if you really care--can be exported almost anywhere or at least sufficiently almost anywhere that we ignore the problem. The only exception to this in the EAR regulations at all seems to be

Re: OSD DFSG convergence

2003-02-03 Thread Joey Hess
Sam Hartman wrote: Russell == Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russell Nahhh. I'm just reading Bruce's commentary to you. He Russell edited Debian's members words into the DFSG. Do you Russell think he was wrong about the intent of the Russell no-discrimination

Re: academic software without licence

2003-02-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Monday 03 February 2003 11:35, Antoine Mathys wrote: Hello, What exactly must be done when trying to package an academic piece of software, which typically has no copyright but mentions such as : - The program is provided as is. There is no warranty. - may be used without

Re: academic software without licence

2003-02-03 Thread Antoine Mathys
may be used without restriction does not give you the right to distribute or modify. Use clauses only govern actual use. I guess the bottom line is this software is probably not to be treated as free software unless/until the author says it is. Rather annoying I know. Ok. Asking for

license =? copyright

2003-02-03 Thread Antoine Mathys
What IS the real difference between a licence and a copyright? I am a bit confused at this point, especially because I hear the copyright is what gives (or doesn't) give you freedom to use, modify, distribute, etc. On the other hand, I found that in a package I am interested in (it 's

Re: academic software without licence

2003-02-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Monday 03 February 2003 20:13, you wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 07:46 pm, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 11:35, Antoine Mathys wrote: - The program is provided as is. There is no warranty. - may be used without restriction - available to

Re: academic software without licence

2003-02-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Monday 03 February 2003 20:06, Antoine Mathys wrote: may be used without restriction does not give you the right to distribute or modify. Use clauses only govern actual use. I guess the bottom line is this software is probably not to be treated as free software unless/until the author

Re: academic software without licence

2003-02-03 Thread Terry Hancock
On Monday 03 February 2003 08:31 pm, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 20:13, Terry Hancock wrote: But available to everyone, with no restrictions does give you distribute and modify, since non-modification is clearly a restriction. available gives you the right to have

Re: license =? copyright

2003-02-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Monday 03 February 2003 20:21, Antoine Mathys wrote: What IS the real difference between a licence and a copyright? I am a bit confused at this point, especially because I hear the copyright is what gives (or doesn't) give you freedom to use, modify, distribute, etc. the license is the