Re: PHP-Nuke License Conclusion?

2003-05-22 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:51:51PM -0400, Don Armstrong wrote: Can you quote caselaw that demonstrates this to be the case? As far as I can remember, I've never heard of such a license with additional riders being litigated. [But then again, I'm not a lawyer, nor am I an expert in licenses.]

Re: new-maintainer vs patents.

2003-05-22 Thread Dariush Pietrzak
I've been asked to provide the list of patents that my package may/may not be possibly infriging on. What package? By whom? Packages are those that I'm going to upload into debian - mplayer and pound. I just thought that it's generic issue - i didn't know that I'm supposed to check

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Re: Removal of non-free

2003-05-22 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Simon Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030522 06:24]: On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 09:53:25PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: I hope Debian won't adopt your views, but if it does, it won't be the first disagreement between Debian and the FSF. Debian wrote its own definition of free software which is

Re: Removal of non-free

2003-05-22 Thread MJ Ray
Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fear there will always be non-free things or things becomming non-free in some way. This does not seem to be a reason for keeping the non-free section. I want things to become free by getting supperior or at least usable alternatives (not by

Re: Removal of non-free

2003-05-22 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030522 16:11]: I fear there will always be non-free things or things becomming non-free in some way. This does not seem to be a reason for keeping the non-free section. But it is a reason, why the mozilla now exists does not change the situation. It once was a

Re: Removal of non-free

2003-05-22 Thread Joey Hess
MJ Ray wrote: (And thus makes it easier to apply pressure to change the licence). Are there cases where software has fixed its licence as a direct result of being put into non-free, except for cases where it was in main before? Yes, there are many cases of this apparently happening. I

Re: PHP-Nuke License Conclusion?

2003-05-22 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I say that when one constructs at cut-and-paste licence, then the words this license obviously refers to the entire cut-and-paste license, regardless of from where those words entered the cut-and-paste license.=20 What do you mean by

Re: PHP-Nuke License Conclusion?

2003-05-22 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Nick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] magical +3 sigh of hyperbole deflection The branden dodges your magical sigh. The branden attacks you with a slew of words! The branden misses! Maybe Henning or I should package something really trivial with a license such as we are debating, just to

Re: [OT] Droit d'auteur vs. free software?

2003-05-22 Thread Alessandro Rubini
For Duchamp, violating the Mona Lisa was an integral part of the artistic statement being made. Whatever Duchamp has done, I'm sure he did it more than 50 (70) years after Leonardo died. He drew mustaches on a photograph of the painting, I think, and exposed it. He could show his

(forw) [Kurt@OpenLDAP.org: Re: GNUTLS support?]

2003-05-22 Thread Stephen Frost
Comments? I didn't think the OpenLDAP license had the same restrictions the OpenSSL one did...? - Forwarded message from Kurt D. Zeilenga [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:15:03 -0700 From: Kurt D. Zeilenga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephen Frost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Re: PHP-Nuke License Conclusion?

2003-05-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Nick Phillips wrote: I would assert, though, that it is possible to phrase one's construction such that it is not reasonable to argue about it. Sure. I think most of us would agree that an unequivocally proper phrasing of such a construction is to rewrite the entire

Re: [OT] Droit d'auteur vs. free software?

2003-05-22 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Alessandro Rubini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever Duchamp has done, I'm sure he did it more than 50 (70) years after Leonardo died. He drew mustaches on a photograph of the painting, I think, and exposed it. I'm fairly certain that would fall under the right to quote. (Most European

Re: (forw) [Kurt@OpenLDAP.org: Re: GNUTLS support?]

2003-05-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 01:30:20PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: Comments? I didn't think the OpenLDAP license had the same restrictions the OpenSSL one did...? From http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html: GPL-Compatible, Free Software Licenses [...] The OpenLDAP License, Version

Re: Bug#189164: libdbd-mysql-perl uses GPL lib, may be used by GPL-incompatible apps

2003-05-22 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Wed, 2003-05-21 at 11:59, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: I don't. If it makes use of features specific to the GNU version, it should either use the normally part of your OS exception, or if distributed with GNU grep be itself available under the GNU GPL. So every script that Debian distributes

Re: Removal of non-free (was Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long))

2003-05-22 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 00:04, Simon Law wrote: Is it an appropriate time to reconsider its mention in Section 4 of our Social Contract? No. Wait until the voting GR is over. Then propose the get rid of non-free GR.

Re: Bug#189164: libdbd-mysql-perl uses GPL lib, may be used by GPL-incompatible apps

2003-05-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 01:01:06AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: It seems wrong to me that we can take a free, but GPL-incompatible application out of Debian main and hand it to two software distributors. Each distributor grabs a different ABI-compatible implementation of a shared library

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-22 Thread Walter Landry
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 09:53:25PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: The GNU FDL does many other things, but you raised the issue of invariant sections, so my response focused on that issue. Just so you know, the Debian Project is also concerned

Re: PHP-Nuke License Conclusion?

2003-05-22 Thread joemoore
Don Armstrong said: On Thu, 22 May 2003, Nick Phillips wrote: I would assert, though, that it is possible to phrase one's construction such that it is not reasonable to argue about it. Sure. I think most of us would agree that an unequivocally proper phrasing of such a construction is to