Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Anthony DeRobertis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030913 04:50]: > On Thursday, Sep 11, 2003, at 10:08 US/Eastern, Andreas Barth wrote: > >What if someone do want to distribute on a DRM media that is per > >design not copyable (aka the "can't copy"-bit set by definition)? > Now that I come to think of i

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Friday 12 September 2003 01:48, Richard Stallman wrote: > Then, a license allowing to freely distribute a software or a modified > version of this software in binary form only is free, but with a practical > inconvenience. > > If you interpret my statements by stretching the term "practical

Re: A possible GFDL compromise: a proposal

2003-09-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Friday 12 September 2003 23:05, Richard Stallman wrote: > I don't really believe it. In the 1980s, formalized free software was > a new concept for almost everybody. Today, there are too many free > software projects for the word _not_ to get out. > > My experience is just the opposite: ou

Re: A WDL.

2003-09-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 12:16:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 08:23:23PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > Thoughts on WDL: > > > > Is "opiniated" really a word or a smelling pistake? There's probably > > some better name. > > Agreed, but "opiniated" was the best I could com

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 10:50:17PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > On Thursday, Sep 11, 2003, at 14:15 US/Eastern, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > >You are stretching the term "DRM media" in order to construct a straw > >man. As such, your argument is irrelevant. My original point stands > >unco

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-13 Thread Richard Stallman
> I explained in a message here, a couple of months ago, that this > difference in wording does not really lead to a difference in > consequences. Um, yes it does. Importantly, it allows for more flexible distribution strategies. They allow the same distribution strategies.

Re: A WDL.

2003-09-13 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-09-12 23:16:17 +0100 Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's been brought to my attention, however, that 'opiniated' is a strange construct in the English language, and that 'opinionated' would be better. I'm not a native English speaker; I am native English, but I think the n

Re: "Robinson, Nerode and other free beer zealots" was: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-13 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-09-12 21:41:52 +0100 Fedor Zuev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Really, I do not believe that you did not read FSD. All the more so you menyioned it below. Please, why do you even write this? I can only think that you are trying to insult me. I am aware what is meant by "free bee

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday, Sep 12, 2003, at 01:55 US/Eastern, Thomas Bushnell, BSG > wrote: > > > > I'm sorry, I was too quick. Combining the GFDL with any license > > (whether free software or not) produces a work which, if software, > > would not be accepted as

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I explained in a message here, a couple of months ago, that this > > difference in wording does not really lead to a difference in > > consequences. > > Um, yes it does. Importantly, it allows for more flexible > distribution s

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-13 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 09:57:31 -0400 Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I explained in a message here, a couple of months ago, that this > > difference in wording does not really lead to a difference in > > consequences. > > Um, yes it does. Importantly, it allows for m

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-09-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 12:45:24PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > I think Debian folks understand what you are trying to accomplish with > the GFDL Yup. > and are sympathetic with the goal, Nope, they can go to hell. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://ww

Re: A possible GFDL compromise: a proposal

2003-09-13 Thread Steve Dobson
RMS On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 05:05:52PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > I don't really believe it. In the 1980s, formalized free software was a > new concept for almost everybody. Today, there are too many free > software projects for the word _not_ to get out. > > My experience is

Re: A WDL.

2003-09-13 Thread Brian C
I'm a little concerned about merely offering a link to things. FSF has always argued against this as regards offers of source, in particular because there are parts of the world where 56k access speeds would be fast, and because some are charged per minute for such access. Perhaps documentation