Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-16 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 11:24, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: The patent prevents you from solving the covered problem, no matter how you come to that solution. So the unlawfullness of integrating the patented method into the parsing of your favorite text editor has nothing to do with the web server.

Re: DFSG-freeness of Apache Software Licenses

2003-11-16 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:02, Roy T. Fielding wrote: The act of running the Program is not restricted by the proposed Apache license either. We don't need to list all of the things that are not restricted by the license. It is if your patent license is revoked. signature.asc Description:

Re: Bug#220464: gimp: LZW patent is still valid in Europe and Japan

2003-11-16 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 01:05, Branden Robinson wrote: I don't know about others, but my notion of software freedom does include the freedom to compile and use source code. It didn't violate the patent until I changed the code, though. And even when changed, it happens to be perfectly free code

Re: Jimi (Java lib) as a Debian package, is it legal?

2003-11-16 Thread Dalibor Topic
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Well, for the gif problem... I suppose we'll never be able to support that? I guess whenever that software patent expires worldwide debian can happily support gifs. cheers, dalibor topic

Re: Proposed Apache license patent/reciprocity issues

2003-11-16 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 03:13:59AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Title 17 USC, Sec. 106. Look at GPL 2(b) to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License. You get your license to use a GPL program when: 1) The program is licensed that

Re: Preparation of Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r2 (II)

2003-11-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 04:30:26PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Kenshi Muto wrote: At Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:59:24 +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Preparation of Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r2 = An up-to-date version is at http://master.debian.org/~joey/3.0r2/.

Re: DFSG-freeness of Apache Software Licenses

2003-11-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:02, Roy T. Fielding wrote: The act of running the Program is not restricted by the proposed Apache license either. We don't need to list all of the things that are not restricted by the license. It is if your

Re: Proposed Apache license patent/reciprocity issues

2003-11-16 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 10:35, Glenn Maynard wrote: What about GPL #6? Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms and

Re: DFSG-freeness of Apache Software Licenses

2003-11-16 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 12:15, Joe Schaefer wrote: Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 14:02, Roy T. Fielding wrote: The act of running the Program is not restricted by the proposed Apache license either. We don't need to list all of the things that are

Re: Proposed Apache license patent/reciprocity issues

2003-11-16 Thread Sam Hartman
Anthony == Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 10:35, Glenn Maynard wrote: What about GPL #6? Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the original

Re: Proposed Apache license patent/reciprocity issues

2003-11-16 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MJ == MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MJ On 2003-11-15 04:14:44 + Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] MJ wrote: It only revokes the patent license, not the whole license. Since Debian, to a large extent, only concerns itself with