Re: Bug#223819: RFA: murasaki -- another HotPlug Agent

2003-12-12 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Last week a RC bug was filled on this package (#223197). A good solution > to close this bug is probably to upload a newer version, No, it seems to be yet another fallout of the linux-kernel-header transition. There are quite a lot of those at the mo

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-12 Thread Joel Baker
[ Adding -legal to the Cc; it may become inappropriate for -devel, at ] [ some point, in which case folks should remove the -devel Cc. The -bsd ] [ Cc should probably remain no matter what, as this could potentially ] [ affect any of the BSD ports.

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Küster) writes: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: >> >>> Wouldn't such a book be allowed? I can't see anything that would stop >>> it. >> >> You're probably right. I wasn't looking for something that wouldn't be >

Status of new LPPL version?

2003-12-12 Thread Frank Küster
Dear all, does anybody know what is going to happen with regard to LPPL-1.3, and in which timeline? The latest mails I found were http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200306/msg00206.html (a new draft) and two analyses by Branden Robinson, with one follow-up by Frank Mittelbac

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Måns Rullgård
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Küster) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: > >> Wouldn't such a book be allowed? I can't see anything that would stop >> it. > > You're probably right. I wasn't looking for something that wouldn't be > allowed, but for something that is as close as possi

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: > > Wouldn't such a book be allowed? I can't see anything that would stop > it. You're probably right. I wasn't looking for something that wouldn't be allowed, but for something that is as close as possible as linking. It seems that what I invented, alt

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2003-12-12 Thread Rahul Mehra
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Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Måns Rullgård
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Küster) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: > >> Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> But anyway, although computer programs definitely are recognized >>> as subject to copyright in the EU, they do not fit the definition >>> of "derivative

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: > Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> But anyway, although computer programs definitely are recognized >> as subject to copyright in the EU, they do not fit the definition >> of "derivative work" or "adaptation" very well. There just is no

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Måns Rullgård <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Exactly my point. What would the equivalent of dynamic linking be? A > book that says on the first page: take chapters 3 and 6 from book Foo > and insert after chapter 4 in this book, then read the result. Wasn't there a case with a book containing questions

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: > Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > But anyway, although computer programs definitely are recognized > > as subject to copyright in the EU, they do not fit the definition > > of "derivative work" or "adaptation" very well. There just is no > > guidance in this a

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: > Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The original issue, as far as I understood is, was whether it > > is allowed to bundle a GPL-licensed plugin with a host program > > under a GPL-incompatible license. Or actually, a host that > > also uses a second plugin whic

Re: [POSITION SUMMARY] Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 17:22, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Actually, it's closer than you think. Any "product" [arbitrary > definition] that requires all three components is a derivative work of > all of them; that will almost certainly violate one or more of the > licenses. It may be; it may not be.

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But anyway, although computer programs definitely are recognized > as subject to copyright in the EU, they do not fit the definition > of "derivative work" or "adaptation" very well. There just is no > guidance in this area. If you translate somethin

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian T. Sniffen wrote: >> Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > The package is the result of collection and >> > assembling of two preexisting materials. However, what is the >> > reason for qualifying the resulting work as an original

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:34:28PM +0100, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: > > The problem is that all such definitions are based on the notion that > > a "work" is either something tangible, or a performance act. They > > simply don't apply well to computer programs. > > You're livi

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Brian T. Sniffen wrote: > Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The package is the result of collection and > > assembling of two preexisting materials. However, what is the > > reason for qualifying the resulting work as an original work > > of authorship? The definition seems to sugge