On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:37:28AM -0800, Michael Adams wrote:
> I have received a number of rather unkind e-mail from some members of
> the open-source community. That is, a number of people have been very
> critical of me for the compliant-usage clause in the JasPer license.
> In this regard, I
Glenn Maynard wrote:
> Does such a thing as contributory infringement exist for patents? I've
> only heard of that particular evil in relation to copyright.
35 US Code 271, section (c).
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/35/271.html
Whoever offers to sell or sells within the United States or
imp
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 17:29, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
> Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If an artist paints a picture with a hole in it -- a window frame,
> say, in an odd shape, and a second artist paints a picture to fit in
> that hole and stylistically match the whole pictur
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 15:15, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html#wnp
> > Several categories of material are generally not eligible for
> > federal copyright protection. These include among others:
> >
> >
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 08:22:35PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:37:28AM -0800, Michael Adams wrote:
> > troublesome issue is this: The JasPer Contributors might be held
> > liable for the patent-infringing use of the JasPer software by
> > *others*. This is a very se
On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 16:07, Joe Moore wrote:
> So, since I've never seen the "source" for the firmware files that started
> this thread, I'd argue that verbatim distribution of the firmware image
> (even in .o format) is permitted under the GPL.
Probably. It'd be interesting for them to try and
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:49:39PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:03:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> > [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:21:30PM +0100, Rol
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:00:56PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:11:20AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > Unfortunately, my experience with the topic tends to indicate that the
> > same folks who care are very likely to consider there mer
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[We're back off-topic for -legal.]
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:33:17PM -0500, Brian T. Sniffen wrote:
> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have little patience for superstitious beliefs, and less still for
> > people who claim to be defending
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Branden Robinson wrote:
> Catholics compared to their Protestant brethren. I should think if
> anyone were taught demonology these days, it would be kids in Catholic
I knew all about demons around that age, and I'm not even a religious
person.
Doom taught me everything I ne
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Dec 16, 2003, at 11:28, Jeremy Hankins wrote:
>> If I understand him, he's saying that the author of the plugin is
>> doing the work of pairing his code with the host (even if, in fact,
>> it will be paired many times and by many people) and that
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> Actually, given that I'm a long-time and deep-seated Tolkien geek, I rather
> like the notion of using the Valar - they're fictional, and Tolkien's work
> isn't yet out from under copyright, but they
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:54:15AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names which are less
> > loaded to random fundamentalists, if possible;
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:12:21AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I think you didn't bother to read any of the parts of my message that
> > you didn't quote.
>
> I did. But I trimmed away those that were not necessary for the reader
> to be remind
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:01:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> Branden's second proposal of using something from Pratchett did have a
> nice ring to it, [...]
That wasn't my proposal; it was made by Roland Mas in Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:41:50AM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
> I consider myself educated, and I've never heard of any demons in school
> where we had 13 years of religious (catholic) education. I can
> definitely say that I'm not offended, and I doubt that
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names which are less
> loaded to random fundamentalists, if possible; of course, most of the
> sources on daemons say that they are, as a rule, wi
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A ''compilation'' is a work formed by the collection and
> assembling of *PREEXISTING* materials or of data that are
> selected, coordinated, or arranged in such a way that the
> resulting work as a whole constitutes
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:37:44PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:53:15PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > I doubt you'd have known they were names from Christian demonology if I
> > hadn't told you. I didn't propse that we use bet
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:10:24AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > Actually, given that I'm a long-time and deep-seated Tolkien geek, I rather
> > like the notion of using the Valar - they're
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Still the nice thing about using old, old names like the ones I proposed
> is that you can be almost positive no one has a leg to stand on in any
> claim to "own" the name.
An old name can still be a current trademark. Hermes is an old name
and a trademark
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Nor do I. I mean, consider the fact that my personal email is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I use it quite extensively (just check the
> list archives) - this is not exactly something used by someone big on
> placating fundies.
Presumably "fundies" will know, or will
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> You seem to have already noted this, but I should re-emphasize that
> since the Tolkien novels are still under copyright, then legally the
> names from them are just as much risky choices as names from Pratchett
> are.
Does anyone seriously think that copyr
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:37:28AM -0800, Michael Adams wrote:
> I dislike the notion of software patents just as much as you do,
> perhaps even more as they have been causing me a lot of grief with
> respect to JasPer. I am very much in favor of software with no usage
> restrictions at all. In a
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 03:13:03PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote:
>
> If we're really worried about this, we can always use the names of the
> Dwarves in the Hobbit. Most (all?) of those names are from Icelandic
> sags, IIRC. So is Gandalf.
All of them. I suppose they even have enough of the right
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Joel Baker wrote:
> Besides, using Tolkien names is a long geek tradition.
>
And that's what's wrong with it. The association of geeks and Tolkien is
such a cliche[1] Same goes for Pratchett (not to mention he is rather
overrated in my opinion.)
No if you're going to go w
Nathan Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you wanted Greek names, there are plenty of obscure nymphs, satyrs,
> centaurs, etc. to choose from. Since the Greeks classified them as
> neither evil spirits nor deities, many of them would qualify as daemons
> in the classical sense.
We could als
Adrian wrote:
>But for a user, it should be very clear that there are legal risks when
>using libdvdcss.
Yes: accordingly, I believe the note should be changed as noted below.
>Besides this, is it 100% clear that the debconf note and install-css.sh
>couldn't fall under some forbidden promotion or
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:09:37AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:54:15AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > > Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names w
Nathan Hawkins wrote:
>Your proposal would change that. I oppose it, and I would oppose it just
>the same if you wanted to call them Loki, Kali or Hitler. (To pick a few
>at random.) Using names of evil, real or imagined, is not something
>that would be helpful to Debian. That kind of publicity we
Debian NotBSD ;-)
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