Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:01:03AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: /* * Copyright 2003 by David H. Dawes. * Copyright 2003 by X-Oz Technologies. * All rights reserved. * * Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a * copy of this software and associated

acceptable copyright?

2004-08-04 Thread Jörgen Hägg
This is the copyright I found in a program I'd like to package. Is it acceptable for 'main' or should I ask for a better copyright? The copyright itself in the README: /* +---+ */ /* | Copyright 1991, YYY.

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Michael Poole
Robert Millan writes: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:01:03AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: /* * Copyright 2003 by David H. Dawes. * Copyright 2003 by X-Oz Technologies. * All rights reserved. * * Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a * copy of this

Re: acceptable copyright?

2004-08-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
Jörgen Hägg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the copyright I found in a program I'd like to package. Is it acceptable for 'main' or should I ask for a better copyright? Looks fine to me. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 12:34:27PM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Those are both much narrower than this license, which talks about promotion or advertising of use or modification (other dealings) of the work. So I can't file a bug report and mention the author's name, because that is

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:15:09AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: Brian, stop calling the MIT and 3 clause BSD licenses non-free. If anyone needed evidence that debian-legal has become overreaching and useless, it's here. Please note that is not a consensus here.

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 01:37:48PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:01:03AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: /* * Copyright 2003 by David H. Dawes. * Copyright 2003 by X-Oz Technologies. * All rights reserved. * * Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to

Re: acceptable copyright?

2004-08-04 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 02:16:47PM +0200, Jörgen Hägg wrote: This is the copyright I found in a program I'd like to package. Is it acceptable for 'main' or should I ask for a better copyright? Looks OK

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:15:09AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: Brian, stop calling the MIT and 3 clause BSD licenses non-free. If anyone needed evidence that debian-legal has become overreaching and useless, it's here. Please note that is not a

Re: Free non-software stuff and what does it mean. [was Re: General Resolution: Force AMD64 into Sarge]

2004-08-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 19:48:38 -0400 Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:00:17PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: This time, however, I thought that I should keep the Mail-Followup-To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-legal@lists.debian.org already set in the thread... Correct

Re: acceptable copyright?

2004-08-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:16:47 +0200 Jörgen Hägg wrote: This is the copyright I found in a program I'd like to package. Is it acceptable for 'main' or should I ask for a better copyright? [...] And in COPYING: Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification,

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 14:17, Ben Pfaff wrote: Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:15:09AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: Brian, stop calling the MIT and 3 clause BSD licenses non-free. If anyone needed evidence that debian-legal has become overreaching and

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 02:33:16PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 13:35, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:15:09AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: Brian, stop calling the MIT and 3 clause BSD licenses non-free. If anyone needed evidence that debian-legal

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Joe Wreschnig
1. Don't Cc me, I am on the list. On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 14:59, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 02:33:16PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 13:35, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:15:09AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: Brian, stop calling the

Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance

2004-08-04 Thread Rob Lanphier
Brandon, My apologies if I've come out as brash or arrogant. I'm not the type to mince words, and I hope the level of candor that I'm trying to bring to the conversation is at least somewhat appreciated. The reason why this conversation has been revived is because a non-RealNetworks volunteer

Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance - choice of venue

2004-08-04 Thread Josh Triplett
Steve McIntyre wrote: Josh Triplett writes: Steve McIntyre wrote: But it seems that codifying the more common non-free clauses would remove some of the ambiguities in the DFSG, and then people on -legal would have less to hand-wave about. That seems to be a core objection... No, I think the

Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance - choice of venue

2004-08-04 Thread Joe Moore
Josh Triplett wrote: As for some debian-legal members not being developers :), that is an issue to consider as well. On the one hand, many contributors to debian-legal are not DDs. On the other hand, we don't really want single-shot opinion mails from people uninterested in rational discussion.