Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-12 23:40:57]: On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:13:51 +1000, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au said: On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 10:21:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: But instead, what I'm led to wonder is if this is really standing up for our

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do stand behind my words; here are, chastizing the GFDL for not being free, standing on the verge of the rowing GNU documentation out of Debian, and yet, we blithely, though the instrumentation of an annual Debian Developer

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: Implicit in both your responses is that neither of you have any actual reason to do so, other than ideology -- there's nothing you actually seem to be itching to do that warrants a different license to the one I used. I suppose that it's

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the best reason to ask or require contributors to licenses their papers in a DFSG form is so that Debian can distribute the papers as part of Debian. I think this is an awful reason, considering that Debian already contains too

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: I'm not sure anyone thinks we couldn't /function/ without non-free, I used to think we could do well without it (or at least we could in a couple of years) because free software made non-free software unneeded, then I changed my opinion when

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:32:50 +1000, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au said: On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 11:24:04PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Several distros include non-free software, as long as it's distributable. Debian's one of them -- we just clearly separate out the non-free

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Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the best reason to ask or require contributors to licenses their papers in a DFSG form is so that Debian can distribute the papers as part of Debian. I think this is an awful reason,

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Case in point: Thanks to Colin Walter's liberal licensing of his Debian packaging talk, I was able to give my local Linux users group an excellent introduction to Debian (with full attribution, of course); a non-free license

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, I was under the impression that every package in Debian was software. Are you confusing software and computer programs? No, I just do not believe that this specious distinction is useful. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, I was under the impression that every package in Debian was software. Are you confusing software and computer programs? No, I just do not believe that this specious distinction is

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that Debian has too much documentation? What is the non-computer-program which we have too much of? No, I am saying that debian has too many stuff which is not programs nor their related documentation, like e-zines, books,

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that Debian has too much documentation? What is the non-computer-program which we have too much of? No, I am saying that debian has too many stuff which is not programs nor

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Raul Miller
It seems to me that we have some responsibility for the licenses used on these presentations. It also seems to me that we should structure our approach to these licenses similarly to the way we approach other license issues. That is: we should encourage people to use a DFSG license, and we

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the papers at a Debian conference are almost all related to programs in Debian. This still does not generally make them documentation. Personally, I'd like to read the papers. It's a shame that Debian can't

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you explain exactly how a CC copyleft-like license would have been an obstacle? Because it is being incorporated in a larger work: My So it looks like you have issues with all licenses not compatible with the one you choose,

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:21:46 +0100, Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Case in point: Thanks to Colin Walter's liberal licensing of his Debian packaging talk, I was able to give my local Linux users group an excellent introduction to

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:52:05 +0100, Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Nov 13, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you explain exactly how a CC copyleft-like license would have been an obstacle? Because it is being incorporated in a larger work: My So it looks like you have

Re: Licenses for DebConf6 [was: Re: DebConf6: Call For Papers]

2005-11-13 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 12:28:07AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:01:48 +0100 Andreas Schuldei wrote: Fine Print Publication Rights Debconf requires non-exclusive publication rights to papers, presentations, and any additional handouts or audio/visual materials

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: Personally, I'd like to read the papers. It's a shame that Debian can't distribute them to me. Debian does not want, it's quite a different issue. Debian does not want what? To distribute them? Hogwash. I'd be happy to upload them. -- To

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:15:20 -0500, David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 12:28:07AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:01:48 +0100 Andreas Schuldei wrote: Fine Print Publication Rights Debconf requires non-exclusive publication rights to

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 10:13:31PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debconf requires non-exclusive publication rights to papers, presentations, and any additional handouts or audio/visual materials used in conjunction with the presentation. The

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:28:41 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 07:26:55PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] I disagree with your calling licensing in a DFSG-free manner as giving up rights: this seems to imply that releasing DFSG-free works is something wrong or

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems to me that the papers at a Debian conference are almost all related to programs in Debian. You expect no contributions about release procedures, bug report management, the NM process, dealing

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