Re: Distriution of GPL incompatible libraries

2006-02-04 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/5/06, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Quoting Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > This is tricky. The relevant section in the GPL is > > > > > > But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which > > > is a work based on the

Re: Distriution of GPL incompatible libraries

2006-02-04 Thread Walter Landry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > This is tricky. The relevant section in the GPL is > > > > But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which > > is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must > > be on the te

Re: PHP License for PHP Group packages

2006-02-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 03:16:38 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 09:41:47AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > This sounds like "Since we have ignored this issue in the past, we > > must go on forever ignoring it, even though it *is* a DFSG-freeness > > issue" > > No, it's "t

Re: PHP License for PHP Group packages

2006-02-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This sounds like "Since we have ignored this issue in the past, we must >go on forever ignoring it, even though it *is* a DFSG-freeness issue" No, this sounds like "since so far everybody but the law.kooks agreed that this is DFSG-free it's wrong to change our interpretat

Re: Distriution of GPL incompatible libraries

2006-02-04 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I hope i have it right this time... In the GNU Republic you'll end up in jail. One of the questions with the GPL is about how tightly you may link GPL code with non-GPL code, for example, when you compile a GPL program and it us

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Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 07:19:28PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Simon Neininger wrote: > > Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann, > > Technische Universitaet Berlin > > Carsten is my thesis counsellor, I'll ask him for clarification. > > I have no reason to believe

Re: Distriution of GPL incompatible libraries

2006-02-04 Thread bug1
Quoting Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is tricky. The relevant section in the GPL is > > But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which > is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must > be on the terms of this License, whose permissions

Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/4/06, Simon Neininger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Does the term "Any use" give the user the right to distribute libgsm? The right to distribute authorized copies is statutory. See 17 USC 109 (it is commonly called "first sale", but the actual parameters of the rule are specified in th

Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Simon Neininger wrote: > Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann, > Technische Universitaet Berlin Carsten is my thesis counsellor, I'll ask him for clarification. I have no reason to believe that distribution is not permitted, though. Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSU

Re: Squiz.net Open Source License - is it free?

2006-02-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:47:39 +1100 Andrew Donnellan wrote: > 1. Right of use > 1.1 Subject to Clause 2 and the legal rights of any third party, You > are granted a non-exclusive right to install, view, copy, modify, > alter and add to the Software (in source or object code form) in any > way. Howev

Re: PHP License for PHP Group packages

2006-02-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:11:43 -0500 Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 01:49:06AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > > Wasn't this issue solved in Apache License Version 2.0? > > The license, yes, but a quick look at /usr/share/doc/apache2/copyright > shows some pieces that still use the ol

Re: gpl and hosted apps

2006-02-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 23:16:38 -0800 (PST) Mark Rafn wrote: > On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, David M.Besonen wrote: > > > worded differently, am i the only one that sees hosting gpl'd apps > > minus source as permissive and not in the spirit of copyleft? > > You are not. Many, including myself, also see it a

Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Walter Landry
Simon Neininger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > ---8< > > Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann, > Technische Universitaet Berlin > > Any use of this software is permitted provided that this notice is not > removed and that neither the authors nor the Technisch

Re: GR proposal: GFDL with no Invariant Sections is free

2006-02-04 Thread Walter Landry
olive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the way, there are licenses which in my opinion more clearly violates > the DFSGL and are nevertheless accepted. I think of a license of a file > in x.org which prohibit to export it to Cuba. This seems clearly be a > discrimination and moreover it fails the

Re: libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Michael Poole
Simon Neininger writes: > Hi! > > ---8< > > Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann, > Technische Universitaet Berlin > > Any use of this software is permitted provided that this notice is not > removed and that neither the authors nor the Technische Universitaet Ber

libgsm: right to distribute

2006-02-04 Thread Simon Neininger
Hi! ---8< Copyright 1992, 1993, 1994 by Jutta Degener and Carsten Bormann, Technische Universitaet Berlin Any use of this software is permitted provided that this notice is not removed and that neither the authors nor the Technische Universitaet Berlin are deemed to have made any representat

Re: PHP License for PHP Group packages

2006-02-04 Thread Charles Fry
> While we are at fixing the PHP license for PHP Group software, we > should try and fix the additional issues that appear as soon as > someone applies the PHP license to software that is not PHP itself, > nor PHP Group software... Just to be clear on what is going on here, no one here at Debian c

Re: PHP License for PHP Group packages

2006-02-04 Thread Charles Fry
> > Instead I propose that all RC bugs in PHP Group software released with > > the PHP License be closed. > > > > > Well, I'm still not happy about the "don't use the PHP name" clause, but we > seem to be ignoring that clause everywhere else at the moment. So for > packages that have the PHP Gr

Re: PHP License for PHP Group packages

2006-02-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 09:41:47AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 17:46:21 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Well, I'm still not happy about the "don't use the PHP name" clause, > > but we seem to be ignoring that clause everywhere else at the moment. > > So for packages that h

Re: PHP License for PHP Group packages

2006-02-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 17:46:21 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote: > Well, I'm still not happy about the "don't use the PHP name" clause, > but we seem to be ignoring that clause everywhere else at the moment. > So for packages that have the PHP Group as their upstream, I think > it's reasonable to close th