Re: A new practical problem with invariant sections?

2006-02-16 Thread olive
Patrick Herzig wrote: On 16/02/06, olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I have already said in a previous message let's say we disagree. Any opinion in contradiction with yours will be poorly defended. Let's not. Let's say that you are wrong, or at least, that your assertions are poorly

Re: A new practical problem with invariant sections?

2006-02-16 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:49:47AM +0400, olive wrote: You have? You elided the bulk of Don's response wholesale, and your arguments often seem to reduce to poorly-defended assertions of what you think the DFSG should mean. As I have already said in a previous message let's say we disagree.

Re: A new practical problem with invariant sections?

2006-02-16 Thread olive
Glenn Maynard wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:49:47AM +0400, olive wrote: You have? You elided the bulk of Don's response wholesale, and your arguments often seem to reduce to poorly-defended assertions of what you think the DFSG should mean. As I have already said in a previous message

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/15/06, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 10:26:10AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:47:32PM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 2/14/06, John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:01:05PM +0100, Alexander

Re: Regarding partner

2006-02-16 Thread Jim Westveer
Natarajan, I am most likely not the person to be asking these questions of. You ask: Can I conduct a Course called Debian Certified Engineer (DCE) without asking permission anybody You may want to ask this question on the debian-legal list. One could certainly have a Certified Engineer

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 2/16/06, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/15/06, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 10:26:10AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:47:32PM +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: On 2/14/06, John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: GPL v3 Draft

2006-02-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
I respectfully suggest to Debian and Software in the Public Interest, Inc. to consider sponsoring a new glasses (let's not dilute $4 million grant from OSDL) to crazy Eben, and let him take a brief look at ... http://www.ifso.ie/documents/gplv3-launch-2006-01-16.html Because the deterrent

Re: PHP License for PHP Group packages

2006-02-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:16:54 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 12:06:29AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:19:10 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote: Moreover, while revising the license, I rediscovered another problem that has been neglected in recent

Re: A tool for checking licenses

2006-02-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:13:21 +0200 Ville Oksanen wrote: Hi, I hope that this might be something useful for the people here. We (as in HUT/SoberIT/COSS)are currently developing a tool for checking the license information inside FOSS-packages. The idea is to make it simple to get a quick

Re: FYI, kernel firmware non-freeness discussions

2006-02-16 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 2/15/06, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/14/06, Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Terekhov wrote: I bet another EURO 50 (through PayPal) that Red Hat and Novell are also going to lose and won't get dismissal under 12(b)(6). I wish I could

Re: A new practical problem with invariant sections?

2006-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
On 2/16/06, olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the DFSG (expecially the patch close) show that the interpretation of what free is was broader at the beginning than the current interpretation of the DFSG (I am right to say that if this patch close didn't exist; you would have said that a

Re: A new practical problem with invariant sections?

2006-02-16 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 08:13:01PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: I think that it's safe to say that at the time the DFSG was drafted it was felt if the patch clause wasn't included in the DFSG that some software important to Debian would have been treated as non-free. I think it's also safe to