Re: how to properly specify "Public Domain"?

2006-03-30 Thread Frank Küster
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you've got the time to communicate with the author to request that, > it'd be good. Otherwise, I don't believe the ftpmasters are requiring > this from public domain works yet. Thank you, and to Nathanael. I'll interpret that as "note that down, but

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Damyan Ivanov
=== The problematic? clause === Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person or organization (”You”) obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files covered by this license (the “Software”) to use the Software as part of another work; to modify i

Re: Antique RC bugs (many about licensing)

2006-03-30 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 09:31:26PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >>Is it really DFSG-free to have a license which prohibits placing a copy >>you make of the document on an encrypted filesystem? Applying chmod o-r >>to it (on a multiuser system)? Putting a copy of it in

Re: Re: how to properly specify "Public Domain"?

2006-03-30 Thread Nathanael Nerode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And all that doesn't answer my question: Whether it's debian-legal's > consensus that "This file is in the public domain" grants us enough > rights to distribute it in main, or non-free, or not at all. It's good enough, if it's placed there by the author/former copyright

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:03:53 +0300 Damyan Ivanov wrote: > Hi, Jacobo, > > Jacobo Tarrio wrote: [...] > > It allows to modify the library if it is needed to make it work > > with other > > piece of software ("for that purpose" == "to use the Software as > > part of another work"), but that wordi

Re: how to properly specify "Public Domain"?

2006-03-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Frank Küster wrote: > JC Helary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Public domain is clearly defined in copyright law, and that should be > > so in any country that has any kind of copyright law. > > I fear there are a couple of countries that didn't obey your > "should". > > And

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Hi, Jacobo, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: El jueves, 30 de marzo de 2006 a las 16:33:59 +0300, Damyan Ivanov escribía: Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person or organization (???You???) obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files covered by this license (th

Re: how to properly specify "Public Domain"?

2006-03-30 Thread Batist Paklons
"This file is in the public domain" is sufficient in Belgian legislation, and in any droit d'auteur legislation I know of. sincerely, Batist On 30/03/06, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Summary: > > If there's a file in one of my packages that only declares to be in the > publi

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-30 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/26/06, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are distributing both, then the XML file is Transparent and the > word file is opaque. My point was that the word file is never > Transparent. I am not saying that the word file can not be > distributed, but that it is never Transparen

Re: how to properly specify "Public Domain"?

2006-03-30 Thread Frank Küster
JC Helary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Public domain is clearly defined in copyright law, and that should be > so in any country that has any kind of copyright law. I fear there are a couple of countries that didn't obey your "should". > Copyright only > extends to a certain period of time afte

Re: how to properly specify "Public Domain"?

2006-03-30 Thread JC Helary
On 2006/03/30, at 21:04, Frank Küster wrote: On the other hand, I have learned meanwhile that in some legislations the term Public Domain does indeed have a defined meaning. From this I would conclude that declaring something "Public Domain" should be sufficient, and that effectively no cou

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-30 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/30/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 3/27/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Those ludicrous conclusions do not follow logically from the claim, > > > for such reasons as simple plane carriage not being a technical > > > measure under the r

Re: RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El jueves, 30 de marzo de 2006 a las 16:33:59 +0300, Damyan Ivanov escribía: > Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person or > organization (???You???) obtaining a copy of this software and associated > documentation files covered by this license (the ???Software???) to use > the

Re: how to properly specify "Public Domain"?

2006-03-30 Thread Frank Küster
"Patrick Herzig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe this thread helps: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/msg00018.html Sorry, not really (or I've missed the relevant mails). I read a lot about whether public domain licenses work as they are intended, and something about how to pro

Re: how to properly specify "Public Domain"?

2006-03-30 Thread Patrick Herzig
Maybe this thread helps: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/msg00018.html On 30/03/06, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Summary: > > If there's a file in one of my packages that only declares to be in the > public domain, do I have to contact the author and let him cl

RFC: the new license for IBPP

2006-03-30 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Hi, This is the third time I bring here this software's license. It is changed again, due to my and this list's concerns about the last license it used. (A brief summary) IBPP is a library that is intented to be included in other programs sources, i.e. to be used as part of other projects, not to

how to properly specify "Public Domain"?

2006-03-30 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, Summary: If there's a file in one of my packages that only declares to be in the public domain, do I have to contact the author and let him clarify this, or can I leave things as they are? I recall to have been told that, in order to make a piece of software free, it is not sufficient to sa

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-30 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Ken Arromdee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Walter Landry wrote: >> These examples give partial specifications, not full specifications. >> I see no reason to read the GFDL as requiring only partial >> specifications. > > What's the difference between "full specification for A,