conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, I'm new dealing with licenses and I've been trying to catch up, however I need advice. Edward M Barlow wrote "conquer", a middle earth multi-player curses based game, and posted it in USENET at comp.sources.games around 1987 and 1988. Later Adam Bryant contributing with code and patching

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi all, > > I'm new dealing with licenses and I've been trying to catch up, however > I need advice. > > Edward M Barlow wrote "conquer", a middle earth multi-player curses > based game, and posted it in USENET at comp.sources.games around 1987 > and 1988. Later Adam Br

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-10-09 Thread MJ Ray
Henri Sivonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 1, 2006, at 21:51, MJ Ray wrote: > > Henri Sivonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> The mutable copy doesn't help much if the platform is designed to > >> refuse to run modified versions. > > > > I disagree. It helps by advertising that mutability to users

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-09 Thread MJ Ray
Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The case has been made that CCPL3.0 is DFSG-non-free because it does not > allow the distribution of content in TPM'd format[0]. I assert that not > only is this argument false, it is actually reversed: allowing TPM > distribution, even with parallel d

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
MJ Ray writes: > Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> A system which applies encryption, but is not enforced under law is NOT >> a "TPM" in the legal sense of the word, and is therefore not "being used >> to restrict" a work (legally). > > Adding the adverb "legally" does not change the m

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Michael Poole wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > * The following file "trade.c" was written by Adam Bryant who > > * gives all rights to this code to Ed Barlow provided that this > > * message remains intact. > > IANAL, but this looks like an effective conveyance of copyright to me. I would r

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Juan M. Mendez
On 10/9/06, Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not change the copyright notice. That brings me a new issue, with more doubts, so I reproduce the messages I had

compatibility of bsd and gpl

2006-10-09 Thread Matthew Wala
The new BSD and GPL licenses are considered compatible,  but how are the requirements of the BSD license satisfied when BSD licensed code is included in GPL projects (eg, the Linux kernel)?Is clause 3 of the BSD license ("The name of the author...") GPL-compatible?

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > Michael Poole wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> > * The following file "trade.c" was written by Adam Bryant who >> > * gives all rights to this code to Ed Barlow provided that this >> > * message remains intact. >> >> IANAL, but this looks like an effective convey

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Juan M. Mendez wrote: > My doubt is, how this license transfering of the Adam Bryant code > could affect the old code of version 4 of conquer released in 1988 in > USENET, the one that Ed allowed me to relicense as Free Software. That really depends on what Adam put in his contract with that gamin

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Joe Smith
"Juan M. Mendez" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I have been investigating. It seems Adam Bryant developed a new version 5 of conquer: http://www.cs.bu.edu/ftp/fs/pub/adb/beta/ where all the files hold notices disallowing redistribution of the code with a notice starting with.

Re: compatibility of bsd and gpl

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Matthew Wala wrote: > The new BSD and GPL licenses are considered compatible, but how are the > requirements of the BSD license satisfied when BSD licensed code is included > in GPL projects (eg, the Linux kernel)? Keep the copyright notices on all BSD source code and keep the BSD license text an

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:45:46 -0500 Terry Hancock wrote: [...] > Francesco Poli wrote: > > Wait, wait: if the TPM are based on public key cryptography, you > > could have the necessary key for applying them, but not the key > > that's needed to pull them off. In that case, when you receive an >

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Michael Poole wrote: > Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > > Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, > > the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not > > change the copyright notice. > > This is certainly a curious definition of "writing" and "signature" -- > w

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Poole
Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > Michael Poole wrote: >> Arnoud Engelfriet writes: >> > Without a piece of paper with Adam's signature saying otherwise, >> > the copyright remains with him. So Ed should ensure he does not >> > change the copyright notice. >> >> This is certainly a curious definition

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Juan M. Mendez
So, as a briefing, it seems an electronic permission can be enough, the same licenses are now for source code. And about conquer, I talked againt to Ed, it seems he keeps the right of version 4, and it was version 5 the one that Bryant developed and probably used with that company. Being complet

Dated Notice

2006-10-09 Thread Sean Porter
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Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Michael Poole wrote: > Arnoud Engelfriet writes: > > However I didn't see a signature in the text file. > > Only the guy's name. > > At least in the US, the relevant law (why I mentioned "affirmative > acts") is what make click-through agreements binding -- the act of > clicking is the user's el

Re: conquer relicensing

2006-10-09 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Juan M. Mendez wrote: > Being completely reworks for the game, could it be safe to relicense > version 4, no matter what Adam did with version 5? If version 4 and version 5 have competely different codebases and were written by different people, then the author of version 4 can do whatever he want