Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-03 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Thursday 02 November 2006 23:52, Don Armstrong wrote: > If those extra disclaimers cannot be expunged/ignored by subsequent > distributors, then you're not able to comply with the terms of GNU > GPLv2, and as a result, you cannot distribute the work at all. [I > should note here that v3 gets rid

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Don Armstrong wrote: > This may be what he's asking, but if so, it's the wrong question. Just to make it clear. The questions I am interested in are: 1) Does this license allow me to treat the package as licensed under the plain GPL in terms of what I am allowed to do? 1b) If I were to package

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006, Sean Kellogg wrote: > On Thursday 02 November 2006 23:52, Don Armstrong wrote: > > If those extra disclaimers cannot be expunged/ignored by subsequent > > distributors, then you're not able to comply with the terms of GNU > > GPLv2, and as a result, you cannot distribute the w

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > Don Armstrong wrote: > > This may be what he's asking, but if so, it's the wrong question. > > Just to make it clear. The questions I am interested in are: > > 1) Does this license allow me to treat the package as licensed under the > plain GP

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-03 Thread Ben Finney
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don Armstrong wrote: > > This may be what he's asking, but if so, it's the wrong question. > > Just to make it clear. The questions I am interested in are: > > 1) Does this license allow me to treat the package as licensed under > the plain GPL

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-03 Thread MJ Ray
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > 1) Does this license allow me to treat the package as licensed under the > plain GPL in terms of what I am allowed to do? Yes. > 1b) If I were to package this software, would the package be under the GPL? Yes. At least some of it would b

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
MJ Ray wrote: >> 2) Is the license DFSG-free? > > This question is nonsense, as already mentioned (software not licences - > see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/licences.html ). Well then, rephrase this as "Assuming that the license under discussion is the only license applying for this softw

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-03 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Friday 03 November 2006 01:24, Don Armstrong wrote: > Setting up wrapper terms and/or clickwraps that cannot be removed > contravenes §6: > >6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the >Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the >origina

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-03 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> No, it does not. As usual, you are just inventing new requirements which >> are not specified by the DFSG. >Perhaps. But how can software be considered 'free' if no >useful source code is available? By following the DFSG. >Obviously there's no single definition for all

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-03 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> No, it does not. As usual, you are just inventing new requirements which > >> are not specified by the DFSG. > >Perhaps. But how can software be considered 'free' if no > >useful source code is available? > By following the DFSG. The DFSG is a se

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006, Sean Kellogg wrote: > On Friday 03 November 2006 01:24, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Setting up wrapper terms and/or clickwraps that cannot be removed > > contravenes §6: > > -- > IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT ALL THE TERMS OF THIS LICENCE [sic], EDINBURGH GRANTS NO > L