Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Tom Marble
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Please note that we don't accept software in Debian just because it is > useful, but also because it is free. Understood. > That said, I agree with some of the arguments given about the > choice-of-venue clause. It is a bad clause, but I don't think it makes a > piece of

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 02 décembre 2006 à 11:18 -0600, Tom Marble a écrit : > Why is this important? Because Sun has several software projects > that are licensed under CDDL that we would really, really like > accepted into Debian. The key example is our NetBeans IDE. > The purpose of packaging NetBeans for D

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Tom Marble Sun.COM> writes: > Until very, very recently this hasn't even been possible as > we are fully aware that NetBeans has had various "non-free" > dependencies (which would have blocked it's inclusion in "main"). > Thus the primary rationale for liberating javac and JavaHelp > as part of th

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Jérôme Marant
Le samedi 02 décembre 2006 18:18, Tom Marble a écrit : > Marco d'Itri wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> I watched Sun's Simon Phipps' talk at debconf 2006 few weeks ago. > >> It was mentioned that the choice of venue was useless and would be > >> removed from CDDL, thus making CDDL DSFG

NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-02 Thread Tom Marble
Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I watched Sun's Simon Phipps' talk at debconf 2006 few weeks ago. >> It was mentioned that the choice of venue was useless and would be >> removed from CDDL, thus making CDDL DSFG-compliant. > There is no consensus that choice of venue clauses ar

Sun has an ombudsman

2006-12-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, I saw the swift reaction on bug #276302: [Sun License for JavaCC] which has been an issue for years (upstream claims it is free software under a modern bsd license, but some files had additional restriction). Getting a real answer, an acknowledgment that this is a problem with regard to the DF

Re: [Re]distribution of disk images

2006-12-02 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florian Weimer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >* Ottavio Caruso: > > > >> I'd like to post some Debian disk images, created from original > >> Debian packages, to some sites via http or bittorrent. What legal > >> obligations have I or t

Re: [Re]distribution of disk images

2006-12-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:40:39 + Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florian Weimer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes [...] > >My understanding of the GPL is that you must make the sources > >available, on your server. > > > WRONG (imho). > > *IF* Ottavio is a private indivi

Re: [Re]distribution of disk images

2006-12-02 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes * Ottavio Caruso: I'd like to post some Debian disk images, created from original Debian packages, to some sites via http or bittorrent. What legal obligations have I or the hosting site? If the packages are all from the

Re: CDDL

2006-12-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I watched Sun's Simon Phipps' talk at debconf 2006 few weeks ago. >It was mentioned that the choice of venue was useless and would be >removed from CDDL, thus making CDDL DSFG-compliant. There is no consensus that choice of venue clauses are not DSFG-compliant, anyway. -