Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 05:51:03PM -0800, Sean Kellogg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In fact, as an end user it is well within my right to use the firefox logo > and > name with iceweasel. It's debian, who has chosen to place a product into > direct competition, who has to watch it's Ps and Qs

Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006, Sean Kellogg wrote: > I cannot produce a car identical to a Ford Focus and then say "well, > it's a Ford Focus because the feature set is identical." This is a totally useless analogy. In this example there is no functional meaning in the name of the vehicle, whereas there cle

Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Michael Poole
Sean Kellogg writes: > When the consumer (a.k.a. debian user) goes to the console and decides s/he > wishes to obtain firefox, from the fine folks at the Mozilla Foundation, they > do what? They run 'apt-get install firefox.' When they do so they are not > given Firefox from the Mozilla Found

Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Tuesday 05 December 2006 16:39, Michael Poole wrote: > Sean Kellogg writes: > > On Tuesday 05 December 2006 13:57, Jeff Carr wrote: > >> I notice that recently you have complied with Mozilla's request to not > >> use their trademarks for your browser packages. However, you can't > >> also use th

Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Michael Poole
Sean Kellogg writes: > On Tuesday 05 December 2006 13:57, Jeff Carr wrote: >> I notice that recently you have complied with Mozilla's request to not >> use their trademarks for your browser packages. However, you can't >> also use their trademark to switch users to a competing product. >> ("bait-a

Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El martes, 5 de diciembre de 2006 a las 13:57:48 -0800, Jeff Carr escribĂ­a: > I notice that recently you have complied with Mozilla's request to not > use their trademarks for your browser packages. However, you can't > also use their trademark to switch users to a competing product. > ("bait-and

Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Tuesday 05 December 2006 13:57, Jeff Carr wrote: > I notice that recently you have complied with Mozilla's request to not > use their trademarks for your browser packages. However, you can't > also use their trademark to switch users to a competing product. > ("bait-and-switch") The same tradema

Re: What does "most recent GPL" mean?

2006-12-05 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:58:05 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: > All of those need to be qualified by *whose* GPL; that's why the > recommendation for licensing a work under the GPL is "[...] GNU > General Public License, as published by the Free Software Foundation > [...]". Yeah, I'm well aware of this.

Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006, Jeff Carr wrote: > I notice that recently you have complied with Mozilla's request to > not use their trademarks for your browser packages. However, you > can't also use their trademark to switch users to a competing > product. ("bait-and-switch") The same trademark issues are

Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:07:23PM +0100, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 01:57:48PM -0800, Jeff Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I notice that recently you have complied with Mozilla's request to not > > use their trademarks for your browser packages. However, y

Re: firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 01:57:48PM -0800, Jeff Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I notice that recently you have complied with Mozilla's request to not > use their trademarks for your browser packages. However, you can't > also use their trademark to switch users to a competing product. > ("bait-an

firefox -> iceweasel package is probably not legal

2006-12-05 Thread Jeff Carr
I notice that recently you have complied with Mozilla's request to not use their trademarks for your browser packages. However, you can't also use their trademark to switch users to a competing product. ("bait-and-switch") The same trademark issues are why there is not a package called openoffice.

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-05 Thread MJ Ray
Tom Marble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Simon's blog entry is from a while ago, so yes the comments are closed. Radical interface design idea: why not remove the links instead of letting people waste time sending to an error-bouncer? > But you can comment here, send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], > and

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-05 Thread Tom Marble
MJ Ray wrote: > I just tried to add a trackback to this thread from the previously-cited > article and was told 'ERROR: Comments and Trackbacks are disabled for > the entry you specified.' Clearly comments are enabled, as a comment > appears on that page. I'll try a cc on this mail, but I feel Su

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-05 Thread MJ Ray
\"Anthony W. Youngman\" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > And what happens if you DON'T have a place in common where you trade? [...] I don't know and it sounds like a common case in this global software distribution game. I just tried to add a trackback to this thread from the previously-cited article and w

Re: ttf-tuffy: The Tuffy Font Family

2006-12-05 Thread MJ Ray
Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > I have placed them in the Public Domain. > > PD is the most free 'license' possible. Assuming that this means PD as opposed to copyright-controlled, not 'in the PD' meaning published. > > This is all 100% my own work. > > Means he