Re: GFDL v2 draft 1 analysis [long]

2006-12-11 Thread Ben Finney
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html says: > > Copyleft is a general method for making a program free software > and requiring all modified and extended versions of the program to > be free software as well. It's telling, and disappointing, that the

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-11 Thread Nick Phillips
On 12/12/2006, at 10:50 AM, Francesco Poli wrote: The clarification from MJ Ray regarding DFSG#4 made me think that each distinct copyright holder had a veto power on _one_ Font Name. At least I hoped it was so, since if each copyright holder can reserve an arbitrary list of Font Names, the res

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-11 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:21:19 + Gervase Markham wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > I probably missed where the license makes sure that Reserved Font > > Names can only become such by being names used in some ancestor > > version of the Font Software. > > > > Could you please elaborate and show

Re: GFDL v2 draft 1 analysis [long]

2006-12-11 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:28:13 + (GMT) MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:47:32 + (GMT) MJ Ray wrote: > > > I don't think it matters. Pseudonymous publication seems > > > possible, but we must watch out for developments on this > > > uncerta

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-11 Thread Terry Hancock
Gervase Markham wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: >> I probably missed where the license makes sure that Reserved Font Names >> can only become such by being names used in some ancestor version of the >> Font Software. >> >> Could you please elaborate and show the relevant clauses, so that my >> conce

Re: PEAR / PHP License status [QuickForm v3]

2006-12-11 Thread Sylvain Beucler
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 10:40:02AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What is the status of the discussion with PEAR (or PHP Group) about > > using the PHP license in some of the PEAR packages? [1][2] > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00188.html > >

Re: GFDL v2 draft 1 analysis [long]

2006-12-11 Thread MJ Ray
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come on. This "everything is a cost" meme is becoming silly. > The DFSG was not written with this meaning. Come on! Stop beating your straw men! Nor were they written with the intention to prevent only money demands that hit everyone every time! I think

Re: Python Software Foundation trademark policy

2006-12-11 Thread MJ Ray
Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I understand it, Debian uses the name Python to refer to its Python > implementation and the name `python' for the executable. Does this mean > that all commercial distributors of Debian need to get permission from > the PSF, or alter their copy of

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
Terry Hancock wrote: Gervase Markham wrote: But the names aren't required to be trademarked. That sentence is nonsense in legal terms: there is no such thing as "trademarking a name". A name becomes a trademark when you use it as one. Putting it in a list of reserved font names is one way of d

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
Francesco Poli wrote: I probably missed where the license makes sure that Reserved Font Names can only become such by being names used in some ancestor version of the Font Software. Could you please elaborate and show the relevant clauses, so that my concerns go away? There is no such clause.

Python Software Foundation trademark policy

2006-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
The Python Software Foundation trademark policy[0] says the following: "# Use of the word "Python" when redistributing the Python programming language as part of a freely distributed application -- Allowed. If the standard version of the Python programming language is modified, this should be

Re: GFDL v2 draft 1 analysis [long]

2006-12-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Personally I think that DFSG#5 does not require that anonymity be >protected, but I think that the requirement of adding the names is an >additional cost - it could be technically impossible for example, or >it could incur another cost such as being persecuted or arrested

Re: PEAR / PHP License status [QuickForm v3]

2006-12-11 Thread MJ Ray
Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What is the status of the discussion with PEAR (or PHP Group) about > using the PHP license in some of the PEAR packages? [1][2] > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00188.html > [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/12/msg00025.html U

Re: GFDL v2 draft 1 analysis [long]

2006-12-11 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 22:47:32 + (GMT) MJ Ray wrote: > > I don't think it matters. Pseudonymous publication seems possible, > > but we must watch out for developments on this uncertainty. > [...] > Hence, I'm not so sure that anonymous publication is