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Hi Kern,
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:53:19PM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> Well, the above is total Greek to me. However, I must say that there is
> absolutely no reason why Bacula would every accompany OpenSSL in any sense
> of the the English meaning of accompany that I am aware of
Bacula doesn
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jordi
Gutierrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On 05/06/07, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Small excerpts (e.g. an Emacs reference card from the Emacs info docs)
> are probably covered under Fair Use. [...]
This is England calling.
Would the FSF have
Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso writes:
> On 05/06/07, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Small excerpts (e.g. an Emacs reference card from the Emacs info docs)
>> > are probably covered under Fair Use. [...]
>>
>> This is England calling.
>
> Would the FSF have to sue under US law or UK law an offend
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Goerzen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:50:39AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kern believes that he must remove the explicit OpenSSL exemption from
> the license in order to be fully GPL-compliant,
Kern Sibbald writes:
> On Thursday 07 June 2007 19:00, Michael Poole wrote:
>>
>> Debian generally distributes OpenSSL logically near the packages that
>> dynamically link against it, so the major system component option is
>> not available to Debian ("... unless that component itself accompanies
On Thursday 07 June 2007 23:51, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:17:28PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > GnuTLS + libgcrypt + libtasn1 implements everything unless you need
> > ECC.
> >
> > > And why does FSFE disagree with our interpretation?
> >
> > Michael Poole gave a good ans
On Thursday 07 June 2007 20:15, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:50:39AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Kern believes that he must remove the explicit OpenSSL exemption from
> > > the license in order to be fully GPL-compliant, and it a
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:17:28PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
>> GnuTLS + libgcrypt + libtasn1 implements everything unless you need
>> ECC.
>>
>> > And why does FSFE disagree with our interpretation?
>>
>> Michael Poole gave a good answer.
>
> He didn
On Thursday 07 June 2007 19:50, Walter Landry wrote:
> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kern believes that he must remove the explicit OpenSSL exemption from
> > the license in order to be fully GPL-compliant, and it appears that FSFE
> > agrees.
>
> I just read the contents of
>
>
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Poole
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Anthony W. Youngman writes:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Langasek
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 09:33:12PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
I'm in the UK, and if I wasn't but the choice of
On Thursday 07 June 2007 19:00, Michael Poole wrote:
> John Goerzen writes:
>
> > Kern approached me about this situation (see full correspondence below,
> > forwarded with his permission). He added that Bacula does not
> > statically link with OpenSSL, that OpenSSL support can be disabled at
> >
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:17:28PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> GnuTLS + libgcrypt + libtasn1 implements everything unless you need
> ECC.
>
> > And why does FSFE disagree with our interpretation?
>
> Michael Poole gave a good answer.
He didn't address the FSFE -- where are they taking a differ
On 05/06/07, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Small excerpts (e.g. an Emacs reference card from the Emacs info docs)
> are probably covered under Fair Use. [...]
This is England calling.
Would the FSF have to sue under US law or UK law an offender in the
UK? I'm genuinely ignorant about thi
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:50:39AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Kern believes that he must remove the explicit OpenSSL exemption from
> > > the license in order to be fully GPL-compliant, and it appears that
Anthony W. Youngman writes:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Langasek
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 09:33:12PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
>>> I'm in the UK, and if I wasn't but the choice of venue specified
>>> "England and Wales", I'd probably have a very ni
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Langasek
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 09:33:12PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
I'm in the UK, and if I wasn't but the choice of venue specified
"England and Wales", I'd probably have a very nice holiday at the
copyright holder's exp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wesley J. Landaker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Sunday 03 June 2007 14:46:12 Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wouter Verhelst
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>That's wishful thinking, at best. Common knowledge defines "fee" as
>"something inv
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:50:39AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote:
> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kern believes that he must remove the explicit OpenSSL exemption from
> > the license in order to be fully GPL-compliant, and it appears that FSFE
> > agrees.
>
> I just read the contents o
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kern believes that he must remove the explicit OpenSSL exemption from
> the license in order to be fully GPL-compliant, and it appears that FSFE
> agrees.
I just read the contents of
/usr/share/doc/bacula-director-sqlite/copyright
I have reproduced it
John Goerzen writes:
> Kern approached me about this situation (see full correspondence below,
> forwarded with his permission). He added that Bacula does not
> statically link with OpenSSL, that OpenSSL support can be disabled at
> build time, and that FSFE does not believe that an exception cla
Hi legal folks,
Kern Sibbald, author of Bacula, contacted me today regarding its
license.
Some years ago, Jose Luis Tallon -- then the maintainer of Bacula --
asked Kern to add a clause to the Bacula license that would explicitly
permit linking with OpenSSL. Kern did. Kern also subsequently ass
Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> A court is going to consider what the apparent intent was -- not try to
> stretch the meaning beyond the obvious.
Intent is not written on the paper.
It seemed obvious to me that this clause hinders binaries.
It seemed obvious to Florian Weimer that
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